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I've also seen this!

I can't sign that without seeing more info first. It was started by "Local residents of Old Heath", not by legal anglers (which is who I would expect to raise a concern of this nature). It says "the Environment Agency and Essex police repeatedly refuse to take action as appropriate even when they themselves catch them in action. This has resulted in complete emptying of local ponds from fish stock, as it is continuously poached and cruel killing of waterbirds both of which take place daily for months". I don't buy that - if the EA catch you nicking/killing fish, or bird life, you get done, that's a simple fact. So if we imagine based on the above that nothing is getting killed (I'm not saying that's the case, just that it is a possibility) then how do these local residents know that the fishing is illegal? Are they asking to see licenses? I doubt it. Without more info I'm not convinced the local residents agenda is as heroic as it sounds. This could be something as simple a few genuine anglers guesting some local no-fishing ponds for some special fish - and if that's the case I bet they'll look after the water and surroundings better than anyone. Of course if anyone can provide more info I will be over to sign the petition in an instant. But I just cannot currently see enough info/evidence to sign blindly.

I've tested it! You're right, they don't wriggle away or bury themselves, they stay exactly where they are, but they can stay alive overnight - even when pierced! I know a lot of guys that do this. I don't bother. If a bait they like is introduced in the right place (where they're prepared to feed) they'll eat it with gusto regardless of shape/size and trip up imo.

That doesn't show the full picture Nick. Maggots are almost 90% water. It's the remaining 10-15% that contains 60% protein. So something like 7 or 8 % protein as a foodstuff.

Not sure about that elmo. Look at maggots, they provide hardly anything in terms of nutrition but they'd be taken before boilies every single time. Same with tigers - at times they're more effective than boiled baits but they don't provide much in the way of nutritional requirements.

Good post! However, how anyone could argue that the production of fois gras can be anything other than bad for ducks is beyond me (I'm talking about cruelty as well as health wise).

I was just waiting for someone to say that 😂🤣😂

I'm not convinced it's that simple Nick. Imo atmospheric conditions play a huge part in feeding behaviour too.

Sweetcorn is twice as effective as maize imo. Unless you're mass baiting due to cost i.e. kilos of the stuff, I can't see why maize would be used before corn as anything but a hookbait. Agree, can be difficult to use within the reach of bird life, once they've found it they'll not leave you alone. Have you tried hemp?

I'm nor sure they can mate, they could as I understand it just eat, and eat, and eat - if they chose to. I have seen fish feed to the point that they're eating the chewed up tigers they've just crapped out!!! Now that's what I call recycling lol!!!

No arguments, this is a healthy debate lads👍

Ah but carp cannot fill themselves..... they have no stomach, just a digestive tract, therefore food just passes through them. I think we're all agreed that unprepared particles are a no-no all the same. Euro Aqua by any chance lol?

For sure @elmoputney, I don't use the multi a lot but it's no secret it's a fantastic rig. Perfectly suited to weedy waters in the area you're fishing too👍

Good man, looking much better mate👌 I think we all know when something is not 100% right. It's those that act on that that catch the kippers👍

You will learn very quickly on St Ives that for the sake of a hook stop that's worth about 10p it is not worth working around little mistakes. Just start again mate. Not worth it. p.s. you're right, the first hook stop is upside down. Those lakes are not easy. 'Close enough' with any aspect of your fishing is not good enough imo. Cut the hook stop off and do it right or start again from scratch bud, it's a 5 minute job.

Totally mate, scary innit?!!!!!

I can guarantee you lads, we get done regularly on ALL rigs 😫

It can't move on the cast, there is no vector to move the hook. However, if you get done, the hook can move freely which will ruin your presentation and it's likely you'll not know about it. A resetting rig is a must for me.

Spot on, that's key.

My pal field tests for them and has done well on the test bait. No idea what it is though bud.

Nash Twister I think mate.

@muftyboy, is there a reason you're after a milk protein mate? Is it because you're worried about fishmeals turning over the course of the week or do you just like milk protein baits?

I get in trouble with my Mrs because when we drive past a lake I'm never looking at the road ahead😂

Exactly 👍 Just walking a water should be exciting. Hell, I get a buzz just thinking about the lake lol. If that's not there then what's the point.

@oscsha, they don't appear to do a milk protein bait dude? It's all fish and nutmeals?