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They're as bad as the EE's. Flip all you can do about them on alot of waters. Good air rifle or crossbow for both of them!

Where was that chilly?? The owner of the syndicate I joined put nearly a mile of electric fence round the complex to keep them out. I wouldn't have a clue how much it cost but he obviously thought that it was worth it. Seems the best way to keep them out.

Do finally for have a proper look at the rods and 1st impressions are i love them i get 50mm butt ring put on them just as I love the look of 50mm butt rings

Had a few good perch today , biggest 2lb 2oz, my mates also had a pb in the shape of 16lb ghostie. Weather has been absolutely appalling. Target is a 3lb perch before I go home tomorrow afternoon.

Lots of waters with nothing left mate real sorry state of affairs eh , laws need to change before it's to late .

Not far from where i live , not a fishery but a private lake already lost a lot of good fish the past few years . Otter fencing is the only way to be as sure as you can of keeping them out & protecting your fish. But not all lakes can do this. We are going to put an electric fence up thus week which might save the odd kill but it's not fool proof , I've got enough spare from my sheep to set one up , proper otter fencing with an over hang is what you need but we can't do it there due to not owning it outright , just the fish !!!

Our first visit this winter .... well the first one we know about !!! , keeps your eyes peeled it's that time of year !