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No mate , 12 ft zig in 18ft of water. Just using my eyes, watching the swallows hitting a hatch & getting the zigs out amougst it .

I know, I deserve a good ribbing. I've felt a right plum all day, I Can fish honest

For zigs or chods lol?

Afternoon All, Just to give you a little update - didn't try the lake I originally fished but did try another that's equally as pressured. Running rigs, loads of beeps - shed loads. One two beeps max, bobbin either moves an inch, stays stagnant, drops an inch. Or, two successive beeps with the bobbin rising then obviously a drop. too quick to hit unless your onto of the rods really. Switched it over to inline, semi fixed. inline setup. 1.5oz inline. Used the line tactic - indications fell by 75% still got the bleeps, reeled in - getting done. tag was out. Each and every time. but nothing to suggest that these were merely more than liners on my side. hindsight it's frustrating but long term there's something that obviously needs tuning - which will ultimately lead to reward in fish and or knowledge. Rigs were standard 6/8 size hooks, coated hooklink - nothing complicated, 5mm gap between bait and hook bend, hook point covered with pva tube of small pellet. nothing crazy but nothing complicated. Agian, fishing semi slack. Going again this weekend, going to try upping the lead size. 2 - 2.5oz. On inline. One rod I'll stick to what has given me results, the running rig. Makes no sense taking away what has given me results. Just a slightly shorter hook link for me on that rod. I'll update you after this weekend, for anyone that's interested.

Mint.

You're confusing me lol. The hook length will be as long as it needs to be to put the zig at the depth I believe the carp are. 2-3 inch is not a zig for me. I'd use a hinge stiff rig for that.

Various avid zig lights cut up , black & white has to be my favourite, although I was playing about that day trying to work out what was going to get a take & that little slice of orange did the trick .

all this new fangled gear 😁 what you need is a pair of super xl's a set of leads and a bitech viper sounder box 😏