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I'm sure that I have done that for dumbell shapes, or a too large a sausage, say 14mm for ovaloids. In fact on a 'compatible' nozzle and rolling table, say 12mm, if the gun compresses the base mix, as they are extruded they will expand slightly and be slightly off shape as well. I used to air dry unboiled base mix balls totally, mixed with water and the other liquids, to get a fast breakdown, basically like the ball pellets that were available at the time.

I must have miss read it easy mistake to make lol but it’s all cool however you want to do it. Another alternative is you could always just air dry them without boiling at all to get a harder skin on them and once that has dissolved you would have a paste so even quicker as no boiling involved it would keep the Rudd away for a little while…

I can remember when Taverham Mills was sold, a 25acre lake, stretch of river, a house and I think another 20acres of land. The Carp Society put in a bid, but were outbid by Anglian Water with a bid for £1,000,000. Anglian Water managed to fence the lake trapping otters inside the fence. What irritated me is I had built the fence around the roadside and the woods at the back when I ran it and had no problems. Anglian Water ripped the fence down to rebuild it leaving it down for weeks, allowing otters to get in. Those same otters were getting the barbel and carp in the river before they got into the lake, so AW would have known otters were in the area.

When I was 19 a v large water near me came up for sale at 40k. I pleaded with the bank to lend me the money and of course they just laughed at me. Ten years later it was sold again for more than a million. I still haven't forgiven the bank 🤣

I saw that, and here’s me buying a family home for the family like a chump. Could have brought that lake and a caravan…

I know one venue that's up for sale for less than £300,000

To be honest, if I want a different hookbait, I just make the pillows the way nick described, put the sausage on the rolling table and cut it like that. Also using a (I think, im sure someone will point me right) using say, a 10mm sausage on a 12mm rolling table will make more dumbbell shaped baits? Im sure I’ve seen/heard that somewhere. Never tried it though

Very sensible investment.

Even if we did save the cash and became millionaires, what would the first thing we would buy?? a carp lake… you know it makes sense!

Don’t forget the carp anglers prayer… “dear lord, when I die, please don’t let the wife sell my carp gear for the price i told her I paid for it”

I really didn't say about boiling it twice, I just meant like nick said where you boil the sausage and then cut it. I'm trying to avoid having to roll them for speed it would be good if I could just line up all the sausages and chop once and boil.

Nah you are being clear enough lol I was just adding to the comment you made about reading about boiling twice and I wouldn’t do it. Easiest way would be gun them out in sausages and use the wrong size table to roll them you get perfect dumbbells then

I think I might not have been clear enough lol, I don't want to boil them twice, I would just prefer to cut the sausage first when it's still a paste so I can boil it afterwards. So I can get a full skin on the baits, I would also like to keep them kinda cylindrical The main reason I don't want to boil them first and leave some unsealed is because of the Rudd, they would destroy them in minutes. I might some and treat them as pellets but the bulk I want to seal. I think if I am going to do it it's got to be easy, so i want to just mix, sausage, chop and boil, pillows might not be so bad but I would like to try and keep them dumbellish, so I am trying to think of a way to cut the sausages with minimal deformation.

As @framey says the only reason for round is they catapult or go out in the stick straight. Boiling the sausages and then cutting does allow a bit of extra attraction as the cut edges aren't 'sealed' skin. I used to use a knife years ago to cut my sausages to roll between my palms, but the Gardner rolling table stopped the need to do that. There is nothing wrong with 'pillows', rolling sausages and using the table to cut the sausages without rolling them, if anything its easy to do.

It certainly does hurt the pocket lol

Years ago I just used a knife to cut them and then roll between the palms. the only reason for round boilies is ease in a stick to get them out lol cant see any benefit in boiling twice personally

Billionaires?

Imagine if you do all the disciplines…

Still can’t decide if that saying is the correct way around or not location bait and presentation ?? there’s a future topic lol

Yeah best to not venture down that rabbit hole 🐰🕳️😂 Capitalism would have taken it in other ways. Like now if you want to get popcorn at the cinema it will cost you nearly £100 for a family movie. At least you can still look at your fishing stuff even if you don't have time to go.

Ages ago I decided to calculate my annual spend on carp fishing. I took into account tickets (of which I had a few back then), bait, tackle, petrol, France trip etc etc.... I had to stop counting the figure got so high. It was eye watering. I decided I didn't want to know! 100%😅

That sounds insane!!!

No boats allowed lol and yes it's 2 buckets a day, we found that if you weren't spodding you weren't catching. He will probably come back ill from it all again, missing meals, missing rest, up all night if it's night bites. We were lucky first trip it was day bites and we reeled in at 7pm for dinner and didn't put them back out till morning, think I only had the rods out on 2 nights. Some trips he's had it rocking to the point he's flipping 30s, 40s and mistakenly some 50s without doing pics simply because you can't keep up.

I had to work it out it was frying my brain lol, it's just over 20kgs a day of baiting, doesn't seem so excessive that way, but that's a lot of spodding. He must have arms like popeye,i would have to use a bait boat I think.

If it wasn't for fishing we would all be millionaires