hooks

[jules007]

Hi all,

thought i would start one about different hooks for different rigs as i never seem to know what hook for what rig and presentation

with so many patterns like long shank, beaked, down turned eye curved shank ans many more, i figured after a few good replies this would make a good sticky thread. this is not a thread about "your favourite hook" but about what "style" of hook for certain rigs

[beanz]

i cant see this being of much use, on most standard rigs i bet you find every type works,

 

its only on rigs like a chod where an out turn eye is needed that patterns make a difference

[afcmickeyt]

Just that its Strong, Sharp and doesn't glare on the lake bed it doesn't really matter to me. Although I do favour a Long Curved Shank Hook.

[salokcinnodrog]

For pop-ups I much prefer an out turned eye on the hook.

With the pop-up being mounted close to the shank on a short hair, basically a hair but the same as the bait being shank mounted, I think the out turn offers a better presentation.

 

When it comes down to bottom baits the current fashion for curved shanks seems to offer a good presentation sometimes without the need for a line aligner, although I do like the straight shank hooks if I can create the line aligner using tubing (either silicon or shrink).

 

Certain waters have a need for different rigs, and in that, a different hook pattern.

 

I still have a number of rigs tied up with Kamasan B175's, and I find that they are extremely good hookers as the inturned eye forces the hook to turn very quickly.

 

The main use to me for an inturned point is when gravel and hook blunting is a problem.

 

I think a lot of hook patterns and use is fashion (Tin Hat being fitted), and about what is written in magazines.

 

If we all used the standard Drennan Super Specialists, (even with that nice bright finish), we would still hook and land fish.

[jules007]

If we all used the standard Drennan Super Specialists, (even with that nice bright finish), we would still hook and land fish,

 

yes great hooks but shame about the finish, though i have had them snap once or twice!

 

At present im using osprey tactical sabre points, and very pleased with the sharpness, finish and they are just right for both set ups i use at sapphire, the hinged stiff pop up and simple bottom rig, all i got to do now is get a fish on, the hard part

[Guest fenboy]

for me 90% of the time i use a curved inturned eye pattern as i dont feel the need to be messing about with shrink tube line aligners etc ,they seem to work fine as they are.

Like nick over gravel i will use a hook with a slight beak on the point to help with blunting .

for stiffer hook links mono ,flurocarbon etc I use a hook with a out turned eye as they dont have such an accute angle when tied up .

[quentyn]

i cant see this being of much use, on most standard rigs i bet you find every type works,

 

its only on rigs like a chod where an out turn eye is needed that patterns make a difference

 

actually if you tie a flourocarbon rig with an inturned eye you will notice that the angle can get a little acute between the line and the hook

 

ie

 

 

something like a fox SR whilst not full out turned will be a lot better

[salokcinnodrog]

i cant see this being of much use, on most standard rigs i bet you find every type works,

 

its only on rigs like a chod where an out turn eye is needed that patterns make a difference

 

actually if you tie a flourocarbon rig with an inturned eye you will notice that the angle can get a little acute between the line and the hook

 

ie

 

 

something like a fox SR whilst not full out turned will be a lot better

 

I seem to remember a well known angler mentioning that with a standard hook pattern and straight eyed hooks the fluorocarbon was being worn or cut by the hook eye.

 

I seem to think he preferred an extreme inturned eye, and bringing the fluorocarbon out from the back of the eye.

[quentyn]

actually taking it out of the back also works but if you take a hook like the fox SR the eye is out turned by just a small fraction and I find that to be just enough

 

ie same rig with an SR

 

 

and if you compare a fox SSBP and SR

 

 

you can see the difference

[jonezy]

cut by the hook eye.

 

I seem to think he preferred an extreme inturned eye, and bringing the fluorocarbon out from the back of the eye.

 

Surely that'd create the exact same angle as using an out-turned eye?

[sam_0987]

well...

 

flurocarbon/mono:outturned eye

braid coated braid etc: interned eye