grahamha Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 not sure if this is in the right section, sorry if its not lol are snowman rigs suitable for weedy waters? Quote
beza26 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 Probably with long hooklinks is your best bet, like 18 inchs or something Quote
grahamha Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Posted July 13, 2009 wouldnt it be sitting inside the weed therefore the carp wont be able to see it? and also i was thinking of sticking some crushed boilies and pellets in a pva bag and hooking that onto it but wouldnt all these bits fall to the bottom? Quote
beza26 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 Not necessarily, if you use the lightest leads you can get away with and depending on the depth of the weed a snow man wouldnt be far away. Always use foam too. As for pva bags and the like they actually dont make it sink deeper into weed etc, it descends slower through the water than it would a normal single hookbait. Hope that might help, if not, i personally would try a zig set at the depth to clear the weed Quote
grahamha Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Posted July 13, 2009 yeah thats great thanks. i just had this mental image of the snowman rig and my pva bag sitting at the bottom of the weeds and fish just not knowing it was there lol Quote
beza26 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 If you used a 4 ounce lead maybe lol, if you can get away with it try and use one ounce leads or even half ounce if itl get you the distance you need. Even if your bait did bury in the weed an inch or two it wouldnt matter in my mind, carp love eating in weed Quote
grahamha Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Posted July 20, 2009 Tried using it again with a longer hooklink but blanked again kept getting single bleeps. Could this be carp blowing the boilies out or were they just liners? Quote
beza26 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Probably liners id have thought mate, if it was picking up your bait and blowing it out i doubt you`d get any indication because that wouldnt move the lead and to be honest i dont know if youve seen the underwater dvds but even when your lead moves your alarm doesnt always tell you. Running leads were the best bite indication just incase you dont use that. Plus fishing in and over weed its harder to keep your line pinned down if not impossible so liners are going to happen more. Thats just my thoughts anyway dont know if anyone else will post and either agree or not or might have another theory, hope it helps all the same Quote
binfield Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 beza is right , you can't pin the line down in weed.Also how thick is the weed. you could always lead around looking for a clear patch, thats your best bet with the snowman rig.or you could fish just on the outside of the weed if you can, that way you will be able to pin the line down and present the bait correctly.If you are casting in to weed your bait will not always hit the bed and you get line hung up on the weed.You could try a heavier lead and a sold bag , that way the lead will hit thebed and not lay up in the weed and the bag will prevent tangles or hook ups in the weed. Its one of those situations we all suffer from when fishing in weed. just trial and error mate. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I wouldn't say the Snowman is a rig, more of a presentation. You can adapt a number of rigs to become Snowman style, simply by using a longer than than you would for a single bait. D-rig, Sliding/Revolving hair, or even basic knotless knotted can all be adapted to Snowman baits. As for where to use it, anywhere you feel confident in its abilities and your approach Quote
grahamha Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Posted July 24, 2009 What distances are you fishing? I'm fishing about 30 yards away. The lake that I'm fishing is predominantly covered in weed so there aren't many clear patches to present my rig in. Would I be going about it rightly if I find any clear patches and cast out a pva bag with it? Or should I use a single hookbait? Quote
grahamha Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Posted July 24, 2009 Running leads were the best bite indication just incase you dont use that. Plus fishing in and over weed its harder to keep your line pinned down if not impossible so liners are going to happen more. When using running leads is it best to use slack lines with a back lead? Also what sorta run do carp give when using running leads? Quote
beza26 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Posted July 24, 2009 Whatever you want on the clear patches, its in the weed peoples been on about for the solid pva bags Quote
goblin Posted July 24, 2009 Report Posted July 24, 2009 fishing at thirty yards??? how about freelining much more natural presentation, and even better with a natural bait Quote
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