mrcif Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 A couple of novice questions from a novice angler.... 1. Is braid only available in high breaking strains (10lb plus?), and if so, why? 2. Is mono stronger than braid?; i.e.if I tied a hooklink of 10lb braid to 8lb mono mainline, which would be first to give? Just wondering really, as most fishing tips tend to lean towards having a braided hooklength for presentaion, camouflage etc. But I only really like using nothing heavier than 8lb/10lb mono mainline. You also don't seem to be able to buy any ready tied hair rigs in braid below about 15lb breaking strain (if someone knows of somewhere, let me know) Or is it all rubbish and I should just stick to a hair rig of mono thats slightly less breaking strain to the mainline mono? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudder Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Braid is thinner and doesn't stretch. Mono has stretch in it and Fluorocarbon is almost invisible under water. The breaking strains are normally corroect from the manufacturer but i cannot stress enough that it depends on the knot. Most knots will only give 70-80% of the breaking strain of the line if tied correctly. Also, yes, braid can be bought under 10lb breaking strain but you may have to look around. Hope this helps zac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudder Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Another thing to take into account: Braid floats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crayonhussy Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Another thing to take into account:Braid floats! ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 you can get sinking braid though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=25114&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sinking+braid have a look here but in all honesty do you need to use it? some waters have banned braid and if your new to carping it can be a bit hairy when you hook into a better fish due to the lack of stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcif Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=25114&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sinking+braidhave a look here but in all honesty do you need to use it? some waters have banned braid and if your new to carping it can be a bit hairy when you hook into a better fish due to the lack of stretch That's what I'm asking really, the 'do I need to use it?'. I think I know the answer already and will stick with the mono to mono for now. All these books, videos etc don't half complicate matters though. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudder Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Another thing to take into account:Braid floats! ????? a lot of braid doesn't sit on the bottom and can arch off the lake bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobstains Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 i seem to recall Nick posting a chart of various lines on the market and their advertised BS and their actual BS. cant find it though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleg2008 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I believe he means using it as a hooklink not mainline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsouth Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 i seem to recall Nick posting a chart of various lines on the market and their advertised BS and their actual BS. cant find it though.... I think you meant this one: https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=26332 Maybe it makes more sense to be in the rig tying stickies? Not sure since it is in context of mainline.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 i seem to recall Nick posting a chart of various lines on the market and their advertised BS and their actual BS. cant find it though.... Nice memory Tackle and Equipment Stickies, "What Mainline?," or something like that (Even I can't remember the exact title , but it is near the top of the section). If you go into Rig Tying Stickies section there are some pics of a number of rigs containing braids. Braid hooklinks offer some advantages, and some disadvantages. They are very supple for their breaking strain, I can't say diameter as even the thickness of braids varies across the board There is a difference between hooklink braids and mainline braids. DO NOT use a mainline braid for a hooklink, many are Kevlar impregnated (certain fibres), which is very good at cutting. In actual fact many Special Forces troops are given a length of Kevlar braid, that can be used as an Emergency Saw. Hooklink braids are mostly softer, although there are a couple on the market that are very thin diameter and are capable of cutting (Drennan Specialist braid is one of them) The main disadvantage is that they have limited or no stretch, although that is normally not a problem as the mainline acts as a shock absorber with its stretch. Knots should be perfect, most braids don't take kindly to blood knots. They are also very easy to tangle, and any knot is almost impossible to undo, so a tangled rig needs to be changed every time. A mono or fluoro is less likely to tangle Some braids float, and others sink in normal use, although the arcing or looping off the bottom is actually common to nearly all hooklinks , even worse with shorter hooklinks. Reasons for using braid, it sits nicely on weed, and is sometimes or even more often camouflaged or not as obvious as mono. The suppleness, may offer extra pick-ups, or non ejection as opposed to the stiffness of mono or fluorocarbon hooklinks. Choice is down to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcif Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Many thanks for the in-depth replies, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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