Alternative to knotless knot?

[occido]

I'm going to be doing some surface fishing with hair rigged boilies using a 4-5 foot hooklength. I was wondering if anyone had an alternative to the knotless knot as I want to pre tie the hairs without having to transport them with 5 foot hooklengths on.

[beanz]

just tie a loop then , then when you get there thread the loop thro the eye of hook with pre tied hair on and pass hook back thro loop

 

 

job done:D

[occido]

Thx. Not sure exactly what you mean though.

[beanz]

not sure if im alound to do this

 

 

but look at fatcarp.com click on OTHERS then on MEMBERS RIGS its called the quick change

 

that what i was trying to explain

 

hope it helps

 

but u wont need the rig ring on it

and u can trap your hair on shank of hook with shrink tube

[occido]

Thx, got it now. Shrink tubings a good idea, just bought some but havent used it for anything yet. Gonna have plenty of time to tie some rigs with this dismal weather were having.

[kidda]

an alternative to the knotless knot, is the matchmens way of attaching spade end hooks. or even try a knotless knot, with a loop rather than a hair.

[maxwell999]

As kidda says, the spade end knot is good. I use it with zig rigs tie my hook to a spool of line, then i can transport it spooled up and easily cut it to the required length.

[beanz]

but you cant easyly change the hook which is what occido was asking

 

 

its just like a loop 2 loop but 1 loop is the eye of the hook

[occido]

The problem was that I was going to be using 4-5 foot hooklengths for floater fishing and wanted to pre tie hairs without having to transport them on the long hooklengths. I have been tying a normal knotless then trapping the end down the shank with shrink tube as beanz suggested. Then using a palomar knot to tie on the eyed hook. Thx for replies.

[snag]

try superglueing baits direct to hook then tie on with palomar knots.

[Guest Anonymous]

Why do you need to take so many rigs?

Just take your hooklink line and a packet of hooks and tie them if you need them. I have one tied up on my floater rod at all times and if I loose a fish just tie up another long hooklink.