bilse Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 what size lead wold you reccomend using qith a bolt rig as i lost a fish at the weekend and i seem to thing its the wieght of the lead wasnt heavy enough to hook the fish what size would you reccomend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblin Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy86 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 How about a bigger one?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilse Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 never thought of that one ! i dont want to go too big but big enough to hook the fish so im not sure what size to use, just wondering what size other people use cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_transporter Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 never thought of that one ! i dont want to go too big but big enough to hook the fish so im not sure what size to use, just wondering what size other people use cheers Still havn't told us what size you use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilse Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 i use a 20z lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoogi Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Different leads are for different situations. It's far more likely that you rig/hook pattern isn't very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 LOL! Try this for a poser... If everyone fishes with a 2oz lead then going down to a 1oz may totally confuse the fish, alternatively going up to 3 or 4 oz may work. A 1oz Lead may not sound much, but if the Carp are used to 2oz and are feeling for it, then the resistance from 1oz is different, and be less, as a result the Carp may go back to running again. Whatever you are trying to do you are trying to confuse the Carp. Its not just down to lead size on losing fish; Your rigs have to be right as well. A hookpull can be down to the rig being too short, the hair may not be long enough, or even you have too much or too little bait in the area. You've got to play around with other things as well, consider all the possibles. If you/everyone else is using the same method, PVA Bag with 4-6inch hooklink then the Carp may be used to the situation. Just by increasing the bait in the area, or changing the length of the hooklink may create a different scenario that the Carp are not used to dealing with. Also Stoogi has pointed something out that may be worth expanding on, a Flat Lead may offer more resistance than a Tournament or Pear shaped Lead which could roll on a take, so a Flat 2oz lead may be all you need to do to convert a dropped take or hookpull into a fish on the bank. Even a Pendant Set-up may not be providing enough Bolt effect, the Lead Clip and lead attachment may be rolling or moving slightly, so it could be a case of going to an Inline set-up. This last week I had 1 hookpull, from the feel of the Carp it was too small to take the bait into its mouth and was just holding the boilie. So question for you, do I change the rig or lead after just 1 lost fish? Answer for you, or my thoughts NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Not only will the shape of the lead make a difference as Nick said,but the type of bottom. A 1oz pendent will give more resistence on a silty bottom than on a firm one You basicly need to work out for yourself what you need the lead to do, eg plug in the bottom,sit on the clay -gravel ,the range you wish to cast etc. It is something that you as an angler need to work out for yourself by a mixture of common sense and experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulc202 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 all last year i used 1oz leads and was quite successful this year i went upto 2oz and havent had a run thinking of going back to 1oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Not only will the shape of the lead make a difference as Nick said,but the type of bottom.A 1oz pendent will give more resistence on a silty bottom than on a firm one You basicly need to work out for yourself what you need the lead to do, eg plug in the bottom,sit on the clay -gravel ,the range you wish to cast etc. It is something that you as an angler need to work out for yourself by a mixture of common sense and experience. Even with that Pendant lead attachment, if the lead has a swivel then it will behave slightly differently from a lead without one, or correctly there is a slight difference in the pivot point and point of resistance between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksingleton Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Make sure your hook is needle sharp then your lead size wont be in question so much,and, it is only one lost fish,if the problem persists then try a few changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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