What do you reckon?

[carpingod150]

OK, been playing around with rigs again, and thought about this, the hair is pulled through the silicon on the shank, giving it a D-rig style effect, so the fish can blow the bait back, plus the extra bait would give the fish something extra to deal with. I imagine it would also work with a boilie as the second bait.

 

This may have already been published somewhere, and if so, tell me, but I assure you thats not where I got it from.

 

It turns quickly when you drag it across your hand, so it all seems good to me. I was trying to decide though whether it would be more effective with a pop-up or bottom bait? Any opinions?

 

The hooklink material is Sufix 15lb black silt, the hook is an ESP raptor D-7, and I used a Korda micro rig ring on the shank

 

[stoogi]

If the boilie is taken, the hair may be pulled tight, allowing the maize to mask the hookpoint. Maybe?

[carpingod150]

Thats a fair point, I might move the silicon further back down the shank to try and avoid this

[salokcinnodrog]

Was playing with something similar a while ago.

 

I wanted a bottom bait on the shank and a way of lifting the hook up above the bait near the point. Basically I wanted a variation of what I think Jan Wenckza called the "over rig", where the hook was lifted above the bait.

 

Pop-up maize/corn on the "point" hair, bottom bait on the shank.

 

You may be onto something with a pop-up on the shank and a bottom bait on the point as well, although the mechanics may take some thinking about and explaining.

 

No, not more to play with

[zander1]

Why dont you just use two rig rings on the "D" or use stiff rig off the one rig ring to make the hair long enought to leave 1-2cm between your baits, that way it would look like two separate baits but they would both be blown back and leave the hook point clear, just a suggestion off cource but it might be worth trying

[nicksingleton]

watch out for the end hair twisting around the hook,if using a pop up might cause the hook to sit at an unnatural angle,worth a try,keep up the innovation!

[zander1]

watch out for the end hair twisting around the hook,if using a pop up might cause the hook to sit at an unnatural angle,worth a try,keep up the innovation!

 

Whats natutral about a popped-up hook and bait i can see what you mean though im just being picky

[tonybranno]

I dont think the hook will be taken into the mouth of the carp the right way and when it gets blown out i dont think the hook will catch hold.

 

But you never know

[carpingod150]

Thinking about it, it might be better to have the boilie on the bottom, and the smaller bait on the loop of the 'D', as the bigger bait willl obviously have more 'pull', as the fish sucks on it, so the bait and rig would go into the fishes mouth boilie-first.

[lappie]

its a very good idea and im not taking anything away form the fact you have invented a rig but i carnt see the point in it myself, if a fish is going to take the bait it will see the boilie first and eat that, so the corn is not really doing anything unless the boilie was a darker colour and the maize would give that bit of colour to the bait. nice one mate

[carpingod150]

I don't think thats true myself mate, I think the fish will eat what it wants to eat, maybe the boilie first, maybe the corn

 

Although the original idea of the rig was to 'clutter' the fish's mouth so the rig is harder to eject. Thanks for the praise though

[jake5]

I once caught the same fish on 2 rods,he took my first bait then second bait both in his mouth and i was only something like 6lbs

[carpingod150]

Wrong thread Jake

[zander1]

I once caught the same fish on 2 rods,he took my first bait then second bait both in his mouth and i was only something like 6lbs

 

 

Had you only just been born

[chrisa112]

ha ha ha

 

i thought that didnt scan right ........

 

<>Chris

[nicksingleton]

"i was only something like 6lbs"

 

How big was the carp then It must have been like david and goliath if you needed two rod's.

 

But stranger thing's have happened at sea :