PVA Mesh bags with Ronnie Rig

[LC1975]

Hi,

 

I'm using small PVA mesh bags of boilie only, (2 x 15mm and 6 x 12mm baits ) with a match the hatch pop up on a Ronnie rig, barbless hook with a supple hook link on a lead clip.

 

When using barbed hooks, does it matter if you have PVA residue on your hook where the barb is?

I've tested the rig several times in a pan of water and most times there's a large visible amount of residue stuck on the underside of the barb that rarely completely melts.

 

If I use barbless hooks the residue always slides off past the hook point. 

 

I'd rather use barbed if possible.

Thanks

[yonny]

9 hours ago, LC1975 said:

When using barbed hooks, does it matter if you have PVA residue on your hook where the barb is?

I don't think it matters, but it also winds me up. I don't use bags a lot but when I do I protect the hook between a couple of little bits of corn starch packing peanuts (what most people call PVA nuggets). The corn starch is released more easily than PVA, and tends to keep the hook/barb free of debris.

It also protects the hook point from penetrating the bait(s) in the bag.

[LC1975]

Thanks for the tip, It probably doesn't matter either way like you said. 

[salokcinnodrog]

20 hours ago, LC1975 said:

Hi,

 

I'm using small PVA mesh bags of boilie only, (2 x 15mm and 6 x 12mm baits ) with a match the hatch pop up on a Ronnie rig, barbless hook with a supple hook link on a lead clip.

 

When using barbed hooks, does it matter if you have PVA residue on your hook where the barb is?

I've tested the rig several times in a pan of water and most times there's a large visible amount of residue stuck on the underside of the barb that rarely completely melts.

 

If I use barbless hooks the residue always slides off past the hook point. 

 

I'd rather use barbed if possible.

Thanks

I use both PVA bags and meshes of boilies and 'bits', and I hate blobs of PVA on the hook. When I use bags, I push the hookpoint out of the bag in the corner so it doesn't catch on the contents.

With mesh I often don't knot the end and use the hookpoint to close it and have noticed I don't get a blob of PVA as it was the knot that took longer to dissolve.

 

[LC1975]

Tnank

59 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

I use both PVA bags and meshes of boilies and 'bits', and I hate blobs of PVA on the hook. When I use bags, I push the hookpoint out of the bag in the corner so it doesn't catch on the contents.

With mesh I often don't knot the end and use the hookpoint to close it and have noticed I don't get a blob of PVA as it was the knot that took longer to dissolve.

 

Thanks for the heads up, i'll give that a try.

 

[kevtaylor]

I've reeled in my rigs in the morning and the funnel web bag was fully intact, complete waste of a nights fishing lol  Then it was winter and the bags had absorbed oil from halibut pellets doh 🤦‍♂️

[kevtaylor]

22 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said:

With mesh I often don't knot the end and use the hookpoint to close it and have noticed I don't get a blob of PVA as it was the knot that took longer to dissolve.

My funnel webs are pretty round like golf balls and I piece through the sides so I'm not going anywhere near the 2 knots, works well

[salokcinnodrog]

1 hour ago, kevtaylor said:

I've reeled in my rigs in the morning and the funnel web bag was fully intact, complete waste of a nights fishing lol  Then it was winter and the bags had absorbed oil from halibut pellets doh 🤦‍♂️

That is the reason I nearly always make mine fresh just before casting.

I do use a mix of pellets for bagging and meshing; halibut, CSL, bloodworm, koi/coarse and GLM in various sizes.

Note, the Crafty Catcher bloodworm and GLM seem to be oversprayed.

I managed to leave some Nash bags in my trouser pocket once, I was quite surprised that they were still undissolved after an hours 40⁰ wash. The plastic bag they were in had allowed water in, but the bags themselves were still almost intact.

[kevtaylor]

4 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said:

That is the reason I nearly always make mine fresh just before casting.

My summer bags have been in the bucket with spare mix for a couple of months, they are damp from liquids.  Still melting after about 30 seconds to a minute, I know this from poor casts obvs. 

The winter mix for the November ticket is winter pellet and Live System crumb with corn steep liquor.  Prob gonna have to make them fresh just to be sure.  I've also had the nuggets still on in the morning so they were a bit old but it was December.

[yonny]

13 hours ago, kevtaylor said:

I've reeled in my rigs in the morning and the funnel web bag was fully intact, complete waste of a nights fishing lol

I've had this before. Absolute nightmare. I tend to avoid PVA completely as we head towards winter.

[OldBoy]

For what it's worth, pva bags in colder weather probably not a good idea, also the preping them up with anything with oil in them does stop the breakdown.

Just an alternative idea for winter, why not try the old idea of pva stringers? 

I used to do the 3 bait stringer thing many years ago, it actually did work back then but too old now to get on bank before next spring 😂

[LC1975]

After reading all the feedback, I think i'll just fish singles if I got to used barbed hooks.

 

Thanks 

[salokcinnodrog]

17 minutes ago, LC1975 said:

After reading all the feedback, I think i'll just fish singles if I got to used barbed hooks.

 

Thanks 

Try attaching the PVA bag to the lead, basically moulding it around it, leaving the hooklink outside and nicking the hookpoint through the corner in and out. It stops or slows the lead sinking deeply into silt as well.

 

12 hours ago, yonny said:

I've had this before. Absolute nightmare. I tend to avoid PVA completely as we head towards winter.

I do frequently test my PVA after the issue with the Nash PVA bags that didn't dissolve in the washing machine.

Brands change suppliers, or I can't get hold of a brand so at least one bag from every batch I buy is tested. I do the same with mesh for the same reason although Gardner mesh is consistent.