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[OldBoy]

Not sure if I am allowed to post this on a chilled site like this is but:

Have looked on 'another place' and seems like so called magic hookbaits are going thru the roof price wise 😂

Think I might have an idea to do the same with mini tubs of particle hookbaits, can't be bothered but suspect it will eventually happen?

The hookbait 'wars' seem to have reached stupid levels, one bloke even challenging others to a 'carp match' for lots of money..... 

Years ago remember a thing about 'Carp anglers' vs 'Match anglers'..... Match fisherman won on Carp caught weight.....

 

 

[salokcinnodrog]

4 hours ago, OldBoy said:

Years ago remember a thing about 'Carp anglers' vs 'Match anglers'..... Match fisherman won on Carp caught weight.....

Wasn't the original carp/specimen angler Richard Walker versus Match angler Billy Sails?

Then there was a John Wilson one against an England international match angler, Di ck Clegg(?)

Both were on 3 head to head matches and I think that both were one by the specialist angler 2-1.

I don't think that I was born for the first, and can't remember the Clegg vs Wilson waters, other than John Wilson knew the Royalty stretch of river and drew on a big shoal of bream. I think that they used the same waters as the original, so it's likely that the Witham was included.

I have seen John Wilson tie a size 16 spade end behind his back, and it was tidier than me with a spade end hook tyer.

 

I think that we have mentioned the silly price of super duper tubs of pop-ups, and I agree £25 is silly money. I get disgruntled at paying £9 for a tub!

 

 

[greekskii]

You can already buy silly priced pots of particle hookbaits. They are out there. 

[OldBoy]

Remember someone doing some Brazil nuts maybe?

Trouble is, I think, most cooked particles would never soak in any 'extras' just wash off quickly in lake water... 😕

[yonny]

1 hour ago, OldBoy said:

Trouble is, I think, most cooked particles would never soak in any 'extras' just wash off quickly in lake water... 😕

You cook the goodies into them i.e. add during the soaking stage.

[OldBoy]

1 hour ago, yonny said:

You cook the goodies into them i.e. add during the soaking stage.

Well whatever 'goodies' are added ie artifical flavours etc, maybe even sugars or salt 'might' help but wouldn't they be boiled out tho?

I only now add something to my chick peas, black stuff, to dull the colour down, before boiling them.

Only thing I can think of that would possibly still take on any 'goodies' whatever that might be would be groats, no boiling involved in prepping them 

Thanks for your reply tho 👍

[yonny]

7 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

Well whatever 'goodies' are added ie artifical flavours etc, maybe even sugars or salt 'might' help but wouldn't they be boiled out tho?

Depends what it is I suppose. Salt and sugar can't be boiled out.

Soluble stuff can be added after boiling but it'd take a while to disperse through the bait.

Edited 15 hours ago by yonny

[OldBoy]

46 minutes ago, yonny said:

Depends what it is I suppose. Salt and sugar can't be boiled out.

Apparently, salt boils out at 102 degrees C boring AI response, 

And Sugar:

• Low concentration: A small amount of sugar raises the boiling point only slightly (around 100.5°C to 101.5°C).

• 80% sugar solution: Boils at roughly 110°C to 112°C (230°F to 234°F).

Anyway, with respect, I can't see that adding anything to particles pre boiling really has any benefit.

I just use my particle baits this season with limited success, which I really like. After all what would an old guy like know after 50 years of fishing? 😄

[yonny]

Hitting boiling point does not mean boiling out. You can boil all the water away. The salt/sugar will remain.

[greekskii]

I’ve just made some tigers. I add heaps of dark brown sugar at the soaking stage. Boil it in the same solution. Really kick starts the “gooing” stage. Two nights in a relatively cool garage and there is a heavy goo already. 
poor example as tigers don’t take much on but I tried one and they are super sweet compared to a standard one cooked without sugar. 
 

I don’t add anything to particle apart from sugar, salt or garlic. Occasionally chilli. No artificial stuff, think it defeats the point. 
 

as Yonny said you dont boil out salt or sugar. When you cook pasta you add salt to the boiling water before adding to pasta, to enhance its flavour. You then boil it and you get the taste. The salt remains. Sugar in the same.