Pop-up reverse combi-rig.

[salokcinnodrog]

While I've had a few fish recently,  i've been working with a version of the reverse combi-rig for pop-ups on one rod on the syndicate.

The 'boom' section is Kryston Snakeskin or Jackal, tied to Gardner Tripwire and a knotless knotted D-rig with putty covering the hooklink join.

The 360 rig is OK on weedfree areas, but where it is patchy, the reverse combi-rig seems to be a better option.

I've actually fished the two rigs side by side, so got a fair comparison.

On the 6 fish session, every rig produced: critically balanced 12mm pop-up over hemp, 2 carp, the 360 rig, 2 carp (the two largest), and the reverse combi 2 and lost one. That area of the lake there is plenty of clear lakebed.

This session (so far) it was the reverse combi-rig that produced and it was on the same line as the 360, about 10metres away, but last week the 360 was coming in weed covered, although that could be from where it was drifting.

It may also be bait, a bright fluoro pink pop-up as opposed to a neutral feed bait pop-up, but the reverse combi is definitely giving food for thought as I had a tench on it last week and nothing to the other two rigs. I did have a small tench last night on the multi-rig over hemp and sweetcorn.

This is the rig that landed the 33lb fish this week.

 

The only problem is that the VMC hook is just starting to rust by the eye.

[salokcinnodrog]

On 20/09/2024 at 20:08, salokcinnodrog said:

While I've had a few fish recently,  i've been working with a version of the reverse combi-rig for pop-ups on one rod on the syndicate.

The 'boom' section is Kryston Snakeskin or Jackal, tied to Gardner Tripwire and a knotless knotted D-rig with putty covering the hooklink join.

The 360 rig is OK on weedfree areas, but where it is patchy, the reverse combi-rig seems to be a better option.

I've actually fished the two rigs side by side, so got a fair comparison.

On the 6 fish session, every rig produced: critically balanced 12mm pop-up over hemp, 2 carp, the 360 rig, 2 carp (the two largest), and the reverse combi 2 and lost one. That area of the lake there is plenty of clear lakebed.

This session (so far) it was the reverse combi-rig that produced and it was on the same line as the 360, about 10metres away, but last week the 360 was coming in weed covered, although that could be from where it was drifting.

It may also be bait, a bright fluoro pink pop-up as opposed to a neutral feed bait pop-up, but the reverse combi is definitely giving food for thought as I had a tench on it last week and nothing to the other two rigs. I did have a small tench last night on the multi-rig over hemp and sweetcorn.

This is the rig that landed the 33lb fish this week.

 

The only problem is that the VMC hook is just starting to rust by the eye.

I'm still using both the 360⁰rig and the reverse combi rig, and both still catching. I've tried a Multi-rig for the pop-up slivers over maize and birdfood, but did lose a fish to a hookpull, so went back to the other rigs, and specifically the reverse combi over the particles. I've shortened the fluorocarbon section over particles, to no more than 10mm.

 

[elmoputney]

53 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

I'm still using both the 360⁰rig and the reverse combi rig, and both still catching. I've tried a Multi-rig for the pop-up slivers over maize and birdfood, but did lose a fish to a hookpull, so went back to the other rigs, and specifically the reverse combi over the particles. I've shortened the fluorocarbon section over particles, to no more than 10mm.

 

Don't admit that, when I changed from a slip D back to a spinner rig after a hook pull I got loads of beef. 😬

[salokcinnodrog]

32 minutes ago, elmoputney said:

Don't admit that, when I changed from a slip D back to a spinner rig after a hook pull I got loads of beef. 😬

I think that the stiff coated braid was wrong for the multi-rig over that area of lakebed, and the hook sits wrong. It might work in other spots, or maybe a standard braid would have been better, but a hookpull is a hookpull, and I analysed it thus. I thought that over particles the fish would pick everything up, but I think that the stiffness stopped it being taken in properly, whereas the braided reverse combi could be sucked in.

The reverse combi rig I had one take today, and the hook was well in the mouth, so definitely was the right choice for that spot. Oh, and relevant to another thread, it was cast out in a PVA bag of mixed pellets and chops/crumbled boilies.

It is weird that despite the right and middle rods being at the same distance how the lakebed is different within 10metres.

I do check presentation for the rigs in the margins and at times on the spots. 

[kevtaylor]

I did rig trials in Dec taking my stiff hinge pop-up rig and adapting (longer/straighter) for bottom baits and wafters.  I got 3 takes on it, all drop backs which indicated to me that they were the bigger fish (proper Kingy fish always do this) but all shook the rig before I connected.

Whilst this was disappointing I feel that the rig actually worked OK hooking the fish in the first place, they always come towards you and shake it free anyway (barbless) so really the problem was the semi fixed lead.  I clocked this and changed over to running set-ups but no more takes to prove the theory.

In a recent video Myles Gibson was trying a very similar rig.

Probably going to be Dec again before I come off the pop-ups and onto wafters and continue the experiment again.

 

Edited June 13 by kevtaylor