Aim Carp Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 hi all, hope you can help. so I've been thinking about making up a insect base mix for boilies. and I'm after some help on binders and good strong attractors in both liquid form and powder form. if you could help that'll be much appreciated. I no semo and soya maize meal etc. are great binders. I'm lookin for a 10kilo base mix batch cheers Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 CLO and WPC 80 are good binders, blood plasma and whey gel will help firm up a soft mix also the micronised products can do a job as well, wheat is the one i have used in the past, the problem you might face is having your pants pulled down on the price of insect meal unless you have a good source. Aim Carp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell_ll Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 dna and another company do a insect meal bait don't think dna have put the dry base mix on sale yet, the other company i cant recall the name but they have been doing a bug bait before dna, one of the guys on the lake was using it last year as a tester with the liquids and that, done really well with it, i know a few guys are using it this year, you really do have to put a few kilo in the lake to get the results. it's not the next mainline cell if you ever seen the dna lads baiting up you would see what i mean. their bait has won a lot of the qualifiers in the bcac matches. Aim Carp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Carp Posted June 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Thankyou lads appreciate it does anyone no a basic recipe for the insect base? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Carpbell_ll said: dna and another company do a insect meal bait don't think dna have put the dry base mix on sale yet, No but there sister comapny BAF have a bLack Fly Insect Meal in the pipe line Carpbell_ll and Aim Carp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Prosecto insectivorous, Red Factor, casein and Semolina. Prosecto is basically a bird food with insects in its make up, been around for years. Since it does not bind well you do need the Red Factor and semolina if you mix it with casein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Carp Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 thanks mate best supplier to buy ingredients from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell_ll Posted July 3, 2021 Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 21:35, hutch said: No but there sister comapny BAF have a bLack Fly Insect Meal in the pipe line lanes and the other maggot farms will be rubbing their hands with glee all the sweep ups from the fly blow rooms will have a higher value. Aim Carp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 02/07/2021 at 22:31, Aim Carp said: thanks mate best supplier to buy ingredients from? Red Factor and Prosecto are Haith's products. Think their website might keep you entertained for a while😉 Aim Carp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Carp Posted July 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 Ok bud nice one there is loads on there but pricy. Even for trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Would appear Prosecto doesnt contain insects in it any more Quote Please note: Prosecto for fishing does not include insects The BAF product is coming soon, looks like its not something that would make a big part of your overall mix but i might be wrong as there isnt much information available yet Insect Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Skool_Carper Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 what about this on fleabay? 500g Dried Insect mix - £15 free delivery. (shop around you may get it cheaper) just grind it up! This mix is made up from the following; Dried Mealworms Dried Silkworm Pupae Dried Crickets Dried Calci Worms Aim Carp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 There is a company called bait wize that do an insect meal, I've not used them myself but they seem to have a lot of different products and they are they also distribute feed stimulants in the UK https://www.baitwize.com/Insect_Protein_Meal_BSF/p7161919_20503494.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 07/07/2021 at 10:46, hutch said: Would appear Prosecto doesnt contain insects in it any more The BAF product is coming soon, looks like its not something that would make a big part of your overall mix but i might be wrong as there isnt much information available yet Insect Pro It does still contain molluscs and crustaceans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 You could do worse than have a look in your local pet store or animal feed store. You should find lots of meal worms, larvae and grubs etc. there for reptiles. Just need to grind them up, and good to go. You'll find lots of info about boilie making online. I'm sure there's lots of info on this forum. That's a whole other can of worms! (Couldn't resist it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 And online - lots of insects to be ground into boilies - https://www.chubbymealworms.co.uk/products/5-litre-chubby-dried-black-soldier-fly-larvae?variant=24469171271¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhYLY49zu8QIV2e7tCh3sagCQEAQYASABEgKuWPD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 hours ago, dalej2014 said: And online - lots of insects to be ground into boilies - https://www.chubbymealworms.co.uk/products/5-litre-chubby-dried-black-soldier-fly-larvae?variant=24469171271¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhYLY49zu8QIV2e7tCh3sagCQEAQYASABEgKuWPD_BwE A number of them float. Any insect ingredients from crushed or liquidised insects will need to be 'tested' to see whether you need to add heavier ingredients. dalej2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Ah. Good call. Didn't even occur. I thought the binders and heavier ingredients would help sink once mixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Skool_Carper Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 14 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: A number of them float. Any insect ingredients from crushed or liquidised insects will need to be 'tested' to see whether you need to add heavier ingredients. yep, forgot to mention that, a bit of semo added to the mix will sort it out! just make small test batches to find out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Carp Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 nice one appreciate all you're help and advice ill have a play around with the mix and see what happens. Tight Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just a thought but have you tried these? May be worth a look and trying? https://dnabaits.com/product-category/thebug/boilies-the-bug/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, dalej2014 said: Just a thought but have you tried these? May be worth a look and trying? https://dnabaits.com/product-category/thebug/boilies-the-bug/ I read a thing last week and they have had to stop production on these for a bit due to not being able to some ingredients or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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