dave909uk Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 What hook and hooklenght combination do you find work well for D-rigs? I have tried tying them with esp ghost, but its too thick to go back through the eye of the hook and its really fiddly to get decent knots. a mate was telling me he has seen something that kind of crimps these stiff hooklinks instead of tying knots. anyone know about this? I dont know if anyones used the carp r us riglets but that is the sort of thing im hoping make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjcarter Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 mantis! thats all i have used for years... PUKKA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave909uk Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 isnt that i braid? i use them for pop ups so would rather use something thats harder to see in water. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy86 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 What hook and hooklenght combination do you find work well for D-rigs? I have tried tying them with esp ghost, but its too thick to go back through the eye of the hook and its really fiddly to get decent knots. a mate was telling me he has seen something that kind of crimps these stiff hooklinks instead of tying knots. anyone know about this? I dont know if anyones used the carp r us riglets but that is the sort of thing im hoping make. Fox make a crimpers for no-knots. But i don't know about their effectivness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblin Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 What hook and hooklenght combination do you find work well for D-rigs? I have tried tying them with esp ghost, but its too thick to go back through the eye of the hook and its really fiddly to get decent knots. a mate was telling me he has seen something that kind of crimps these stiff hooklinks instead of tying knots. anyone know about this? I dont know if anyones used the carp r us riglets but that is the sort of thing im hoping make. Fox predator range is where you will find them mate. very good peice of kit, highly reccomend them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake5 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 silkworm is wat i use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seleb Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 ESP Stiff riggers or Drennan continental boilie hooks are pretty decent for D rigs. If you're going to use a fluoro' or thick mono you might want to use a "bigish" hook. Maybe a 6 in the Drennan or a 4 in the ESP. Personally i don't like fluoro' links much, i prefer bristle filament,. I've been using the Fox stuff but have just switched to ESP (both in 15lb) and it seems much more workable. Hope that is some use to you. Seleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozric Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Started to play with the wychwood crimping set up for booms but too early to offer an opinion yet. For D rings hook lengths I have not had any probs with 15lb Ghost but cleat trilene is fine to use. If you do fancy a go crimping it's no good with fluoro carbon material. Fluoro I understand doesn't like to be compressed hence why certain knots are unsafe to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 mantis! thats all i have used for years... PUKKA Mantis or mantis gold, with a small section stripped back usually D-rigs work well with Bottom baits or pop-ups and particularly well with critically balanced baits. Basically something like that: Coated Braid D-rig: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave909uk Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 cheers guys, will look at the bristle filament stuff. and will have to get some stiff rigger hooks. trip to tackle shop at lunch i think. in that pic you have attached you have a D-ring and a hair, I either use one or the other, are you using both? or have you attached a hair to the ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 cheers guys, will look at the bristle filament stuff. and will have to get some stiff rigger hooks. trip to tackle shop at lunch i think. in that pic you have attached you have a D-ring and a hair, I either use one or the other, are you using both? or have you attached a hair to the ring? The hair is actually what I tie the bait on with. Looking at that knot I set it up for a 18mm Pop-up. I do have a small hair coming off from the Ring, normally just to give a bit of lateral movement as well as backwards and forwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 You can tie a d rig using 25lb IQ it still goes through the eye twice of a size 6 wide gape (or most hooks). Surely you want the invisibility of IQ or Ghost - what hooks you using coz both these materials will thread twice? Crimps - please leave it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave909uk Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 You can tie a d rig using 25lb IQ it still goes through the eye twice of a size 6 wide gape (or most hooks). Surely you want the invisibility of IQ or Ghost - what hooks you using coz both these materials will thread twice? Crimps - please leave it out yeah mate but for a d-rig the hooklink needs to go through three times. picked up some size 6 esp stiff riggers at lunch time, so hopefully get a couple tied up tonight ready for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 You've got me thinking now - does it really? lol - if it does then my IQ manages to pass through three times on a size 6 Korda Pattern B. Ghost of about 15 lb would pass through dead easy - the 25lb IQ is easy enough PS I really had to think hard to realise this 3 times thing - must be getting old lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefull Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I've been tying mine using a Domhof whipping knot, that way the line only has to pass through the eye once when tying the hair-rig bit, then there's plenty of room for the tag bit of the line to be brought back through to form the D. Plus, it's a lot easier to tie very short hooklinks with that knot (1" chod rigs etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave909uk Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 think it was 18lb ghost i was using before and it wouldnt go through any. they do seem to have slightly larger eyes on the stiff riggers. i am not up on my whipping knots but that would be a good solution, any knots are a right nightmare to tie with this stiff hooklinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Too right I've got the scars to prove it - dangerous stuff! I pulled a hook right through my thumb starting with the nail, that was fun! The joy of pulling using pliers to tighten it - one slip and your in trouble. Yeah sorry 18lb is the right Ghost BS - I reckon I've been lucky with the Korda hooks and Fangs - coz they must just have big eyes. In fact thinking back I remember having to cut the IQ into a point to get it through one type of hook - pretty damn tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave909uk Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 will let you know what the successful combination is. think i may be dipping into my mates tackle box as he has various BS and makes of hooklink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefull Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 i am not up on my whipping knots but that would be a good solution, any knots are a right nightmare to tie with this stiff hooklinks? It can be a bit tricky, use a pair of forceps to hold the flourocarbon when tying the knot if it gets awkward. I'm using 25lb IQ and the Gardner D-Ceptor (i think that's how its spelt) stiff-rigger hooks, and it works a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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