360gamer00 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 Please can someone tell what else I can use instead of braid? I llike braid but Ive been told it can damage the carp. I dont like using mono. Is there anything like braid but that wont damage the carp? Thanks in advance Quote
johnplumb Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 Are you talking about hook links ? Quote
johnplumb Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 Just keep using braid if that is what you like to use , yes it is possible it may cause damage but so can other hook link material Quote
cobleyn Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 You can either use a slightly thicker braid or hunt down some flat profile braid. Terry Eustace is prototyping some at the moment. Quote
zander1 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 You can either use a slightly thicker braid or hunt down some flat profile braid. Terry Eustace is prototyping some at the moment. I believe that that and and very fine braids (dyneema) tend to cause more damage than that of a round or loose weave braid like Herculine Heavy. Quote
zander1 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Posted September 19, 2010 25lb sinklink yeh, and that one, or even carp silk. Quote
cobleyn Posted September 19, 2010 Report Posted September 19, 2010 You can either use a slightly thicker braid or hunt down some flat profile braid. Terry Eustace is prototyping some at the moment. I believe that that and and very fine braids (dyneema) tend to cause more damage than that of a round or loose weave braid like Herculine Heavy. I've played around with flat braid and it doesnt mark the fish like round braid does. I've had 40's, 50's and 60's on it that dragged me round the lake- but came in with clean mouths. I never got one that sunk though in colors that I liked- so I abandoned it. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted September 20, 2010 Report Posted September 20, 2010 I've been using hooklink braids for absolutely years, since the days of Dacron with very few problems and can't ever recall damaging the mouth of a fish. I did actually do some tests with some braids which after testing I felt were too thin to use for fishing, and they were the Drennan Carp Super Specialist braids. I managed to knock over my workbench in the shed one day and left myself with a nasty cut on the hand from holding the braid attached to a hook in the vice on the workbench. As a result I decided to play around with other braids as well. The braids that are sold as Mainline braids often have a Kevlar weave, and so can and will cause damage to the fishes mouth, yet the majority of specialist hooklink braids don't, especially the Kryston range in the heavier strains from 12lb upwards. I felt that the 6,8 and 10lb versions were a bit risky for a hooklink, although as a hair material Also if you use a coated braid, then the coating can be removed near the hook, but leave the majority of the coating on, so that it is protected against damaging the carps mouth and cheeks during playing Quote
armandw Posted September 21, 2010 Report Posted September 21, 2010 When I use very thin braid (20lb =0.17 mm, fireline) I cover the hooklink in PVC tubing that also assist in tangling and prevents it from cutting into underwater plant material. I did not damage any fish with the braid as well but did notice on occasion it removed some scales. Quote
Guest keenook Posted September 21, 2010 Report Posted September 21, 2010 When I use very thin braid (20lb =0.17 mm, fireline) I cover the hooklink in PVC tubing that also assist in tangling and prevents it from cutting into underwater plant material. I did not damage any fish with the braid as well but did notice on occasion it removed some scales. How long was your hook llink??? Quote
armandw Posted September 21, 2010 Report Posted September 21, 2010 15 cm but not using PVA in the past as it is to short to do any harm, or that was my believe, longer than that I use PVA tubing or if 15cm I use PVA tube to keep the hook link down as it is much cheaper than the putty or even cheaper to use crimp lead (BY US). When going over 15 cm I like to use a sliding sinker with 2 gummy stoppers spaced one just behind the lead and one 5 cm further away, just like a simple bolt rig. When I want to balance I use a fluro boom with a ring swivel to attach the hook link but my hook link will not be longer than 5cm in this case. A bit of a long answer but I need to explain how I took the scales off. A normal hook link will not do it less than 15 cm, based on my opinion. I do not know if the braid might injure the eyes when turning around to fight the rod so I started to cover the mentioned braid with PVA at any length above 7 cm as well or use coated braid. When I use braid for a leader I cover the first meter in tubing AT ALL TIMES BELOW 0.30, however I am not sure if the right name for the tube is PVA or PVC. Good question Keenok but as can be seen it is based on my own experience and some changes in known methods and might not be agreeable to all. Quote
360gamer00 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Posted September 22, 2010 Thanks for your help everyone. I think im going to buy some thicker braid of coated braid. I was using 12lb Fox Mega Silk Braid. It was the first time I noticed that it damaged the side of the fish the other day. Mind you, it was only 9lb and it took of like a rocket. Quote
Guest keenook Posted September 22, 2010 Report Posted September 22, 2010 You can either use a slightly thicker braid or hunt down some flat profile braid. Terry Eustace is prototyping some at the moment. DITTO! 25lbs Silk worm is lovely and flat, never had a problem, thats if they still make it! Quote
armandw Posted September 26, 2010 Report Posted September 26, 2010 Keenok, in South Africa is there another name that I can go by just to give you an idea, or any product that you gents know that is good quality exported to South Africa 300M BRAID 20LB= 30 dollars. coated braid =20m = 10 dollars. 10 m pva mesh= 10 dollars. Fluro line 200m = 30-20 dollars. What is the price that you gents actually buy these things for. Regards Armand Quote
johnplumb Posted September 26, 2010 Report Posted September 26, 2010 What is the exchange rate ? into £ Quote
armandw Posted September 26, 2010 Report Posted September 26, 2010 Sorry John. in euros * 11, in dollars*7-8 Quote
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