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I have seen it done with a rubber grub

Again not massively different to today's kicker and same theory tubing to extend the shank with angle at the top, the key difference with what i class as a real line alinger was instead of the hooklink material exiting straight out of the tubing you pierced a hole near the top where the hooklink material would exit.

That man shaped the early years of my angling attended a talk by him blow my mind in those days (early 90's)

To me yes This one is down to people personal thoughts on the subject some think that barbed hooks have less chance of moving once the fish is hooked, as where barbless due to lack of barb have more chance of slipping and then rehooking or tearing the mouth of the fish. No hard evidence either way, some folks on here might have run into this item before.

Found this on Luke Moffatt's website for Graviers regarding hooks http://www.lukemoffatt.com/carp/carp_restrictions.shtml

Going back to the original title of the thread I know people on here have had good experiences with the Krank hooks but for me the curve is to aggressive and they can cause mouth damage from the movement they create in the mouth (Struggling to find good evidence of this though). So for me the 2 hooks are completely different.

Depends on the rig you are using to present the pop up's, for example multi rig/hinge stiff rig would use a chod style hook as where my current presentation using something similar to what Nick describes with a ring on the shank i use a wide gape style hook. Different patterns are suited to different presentations

Im another one that uses quick links, I use the fox kwik change ones but instead of using a full anti tangle sleeve I trim enough off to cover the attachment section and a bit more but leave the end like the eye of a swivel so you get full movement for the rig from the attaching loop.

Welcome to the forum Lee On the fox edges 3 there is a section shot here http://www.carplantis.com/en/ dont know if it is any used to you.

I use Fox Rigidity in 25lbs for the stiff section of my HSR (there the same thing anyway)

Oh god he's mentioned the C word To save a lot of typing I will hand you over to the Thinking Tackle boys for an explaination I don't use chod's myself more to the fact the waters i fish don't really have the requirement to but i am playing around with its rig cousin the stiff hinge rig

To be honest I haven't used that rig before was just a suggestion for the poster, I still think there is something with the short stiff section at the hook end that makes it very tricky for the carp to deal with. That is not the best pic i have seen of it normally the stiff section has a nice smooth curve to it, so i'm guessing the hook will lay horizontal to the bait due to the length/weight of the longshank hook. I don't use longshank hooks due to the size of the fish i fish for they have the potential to cause mouth damage but the principal should work with a normal out turned eye hook of the anglers preference

Forgot to add the image

Looks a hybrid between the 360 and a hinge stiff, for me personally there is to much going on with the rig itself, I would keep it simple to start with, having said that there is something in the whole really short very stiff pop up section as the flick rig that Ian Russell uses a lot has a similar section. I agree with this and i believe that when you are using a low sitting pop up the fish do not know that it is not on the bottom (this theroy is taken from experiences when diving when looking square on to some items it is very tricky to tell if they are on the bottom) and as the home in on the bait it catches them by surprise and flies straight back into the mouth

Option one for me mate I like the hook to sit at 45 degree angle with a pop up.

Yes he did good spot cyborx

Ok so question for the poster how accessible are these spots, example could you view the spot if you covered it with particles. how clear is the water etc....., can you bait those spots regular If you get to ticks to the above question, find a couple of points in line with markers from where you can cast from, apply a couple of kilo's of hemp with a mix of small halibut pellets every day for about 2-3 days before you are due to fish, if the fish are visiting and munch those spots will start to be become very clean, when fishing apply same loose feed and pop a bait in.

I see your point NM, feeding fish on a diet of high oil pellets can't be a good thing, it would like the early fishmeal days when everything was dripping in some form of fish oil

CM is that you in a new maize filled life (please run sense of humour check before reading this line) Same could be said by getting a bus load of halibut pellets which is what they are feed on, hemp is a better option IMO for preoccupying fish.

Which is why i mentioned the stiff hinge with a soft boom section same effect without using the C word

This combination may work for me a decent length of braid say 9-10", altough soft braid and heli rigs don't work well for me regarding tangles etc.. PVA Bag is a no for me would just plunge into the chod, Foam may help but your relying on the bait not settling in the reed stems your dragging back. Other possibles you need to lighten the hookbait I noticed dynamite do halibut pellet pop ups this combined with a stiff hinge rig with a supple braid boom may score you extra points, or dare I say it a naked chod, Im not the best person to comment on naked chod use as I dont use them but someone will be along shortly Hopefully this is helpful for you and kick start the thread to get you somethings to try. My supple braid of choice has for years been Kryston Supernova

Ok just happened to be watching the Korda Masterclass Low Stocked Pits and noticed DF demoing this rig, you will notice from the image i have attached he is no longer incasing the D inside the knotless knot and appears to go around the outside of it

I know when Danny demo's he uses a Korda Kurv reasons being obvious. Bet you would cause DF's back problem to twitch suggesting that for his rig As I mentioned before i use the same material but use a conventional D Rig and haven't found any issues which is why I thought the knot was strangling somehow.