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Putty on the hooklength

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These sunken pike floats ....are they the same as the clear bubble floats that i use as controllers when surface fishing ?
If yes , then i have a question .
When surface fishing i usually fill the bubble float with water for obvious reasons but if using one on an adjustable zig , should i add any water or leave the bubble empty ?
I have considered using the zig grenade but im confused as to where to place the pva tape and hook cos the photos not too clear .
And i have the fox halo zig kit but its really bulky and like , tangle city

I just know its going to be hot when i fish next so the zigs will have to come out at certain times of the day

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- Phil and dalthegooner
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Esp 12 bore
Green - Available in 2.5 metre lengths in 2.0mm diameter
- Produced to the same technical specifications as E-S-P Sink and Anchor Rig Tubes but with a larger bore of 0.9mm.
- Designed to accept E-S-P Tapered Leaders and other heavy monos whilst retaining optimum line protection and super sinking properties. -
Here are a few of mine
1/ flourocarcabon leader 20lb approx 1m long, size 8 kwik klip, buffer sleeve, avid chod sleeve with big eye quick change swivel.
2/ Pretty much as above but on 20 lb leadcore
3/ standard inline lead, can be used for solid bags
4/ inline dropoff, note the big eye on the hooklength ( cut from a swivel ) this makes the rig safer allowing only the hooklength to stay in the fish in the event of a breakage.
5/ chod dropoff, sorry cropped the loop of the bottom of the pic, basically you put on the lead, then push the needle down the sleeve, pull the short loop through and put in a trimmed pva nugget, this will take the brunt of the cast/retrieve but if snagged pull away dropping the lead.
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Gutted for you andy

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I don't do light leads anymore , nothing under 3 oz now, just seemed to get done more on lighter ones last season.
I do like running rigs but the lead needs to be like an anchor hence the heaver weight.
Had fish kite a long way before indication before, probably dragging the lead rather than pulling through it.
If it's your first fish on that setup it's not conclusive why the hook slipped, or even if there was an issue with the mechanics at all,
make one change at a time is all i'll advise.
starting with a big old lead

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Washing out isn't just colour though. Baits that are soft, and swelled up aren't something that can be replicated out the bag.
You've never bought cheap nasty bait from ebay then

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Re; washed out
If it's such an edge then why don't manufacturers make them this colour to start with ?
Seems the paler boilies like tiger nut, cell, etc will wash out,
but have many of us have caught in the first few hours of arrival with a bait straight out of the bag ? so not even remotely washed out.
I think we are given these fish too much credit for being smarter than we think, after all they are pigs with fins

Anyway i have some red fishmeal boilies that would'nt wash out if i bathed with them for a whole year

So really the best bait colour to use should be white, yes?
sales of nash amber will rocket now

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I might get jumped on from a great height here so tin helmet already on BUT wouldnt some rig putty on the right hand loop knot tidy it up a bit yet still allow the fluoro to do its job ?
Blanks should it be a uni knot rather than a loop to loop ?
Albright knot for me, although a back to back uni can work, i find it awkward to get the length right though.
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Howdy mate, welcome to the forum.
I can see what you are trying to achieve, but by having all those loop knots there is potential for creating weak spots in the rig.
A coated braid with a section stripped back to create a supple section is a popular rig,
combi rigs made from two different materials can achieve the same,
for me the mechanics should allow a rig to reset if it gets taken and spat out,
what is stopping your hook from catching one of the loops and sitting in a tangled mess .
I try and think what can go wrong with a rig, that way i can fix any potential problems.
There are tons of ideas and pics in the rig tying section to keep you busy.
Atb jay
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Three of my combi's using different materials,
1/ suffix stealthskin to mouthrap
2/ 15lb kameleon to 25lb coated black silt
3/ camfusion to esp stiff
All using the sinker to mask the knot.
Bottom is a ring cut from a large eye swivel, palomar knot straight to the coated braid.
Get on the suffix, only £5-6 a spool too !
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Bin the striptease, i find it waxy and slippy,
I tie all my combis using the suffix range, camfusion & kameleon being the best, can't get the knot to slip.
It will palomar to a ring ok too,
A little tip when using stiff fluro, i put a large sinker on a needle, double over the line and slide on an inch,
this holds the loop in place whilst you tied the albright,
Once the knot it tightened down and trimmed slide the sinker over it, trim tag off fluro, voila, neat as you like

- Brookesy and dalthegooner
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I too have read the links, but they are 7 yrs old, times have changed.
The original culprit was the long shank nailer, it had potential to double hook, i believe these are banned at most fisheries nationally.
The shorter curve shank now used in whatever rig type is not outlawed anywhere i know off.
a c&p from the nutrabaits website;
The Alternative 360
Our Alternative Hookbait range of pop-ups hookbaits is ideal for fishing the 360 Degree rig. This rig is usually set up using a long curved shank hook like the long shank Nailer. However, of late concern has been voiced about the potential for mouth damage with these types of hook so you may like to know that the rig works equally well with many other hook patters. One of my most effective rigs and baits over the past three years has been the 360 fished with a 10mm Pink Pepper or 10mm Pineapple and Butyric pop up. Instead of the usual long curved shank hook I have been using a size 4 Fox SSC hook and this has worked a treat with a 360 Degree set-up.
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No no no... We need to unbalance everything now! Lol!! The carp are used to balanced set ups... I have used this rig to good effect on the past.

ssshhhhhhhhhh...godamnit, i wish i'd never posted that pic, everyone will be bagging up on it now

* Hacksaw knot* all rights reserved ○
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Havent i seen a similar rig somewhere where , the normal very long hair comes off the hook at the same point only instead of tying the hair directly to the hook , its knotless knotted and held in place by shrink tubing and/or a rig ring ? Does that make sense ?
I know exactly what you mean tim, but this rig is usually tied with mono or fluro (look closely at the pic,eye end) so hence the need for a seperate hair

well i may have invented a new knot for this rig , i'll call it the hacksaw knot, 'cause that's what you need to remove it

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I've never tied this before so noddy question time

The instructions on the website i found this on says " use a suitable knot"
which is ..what, blood, granny, half hitch, rolling hitch, japanese bight, etc etc,
one things for sure you don't want it to slip on the hook , so answers on a postcard or reply below

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I forgot to say i left the floss untrimmed , just for the sake of the pic .
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I'd normally leave 8-10mm from the bait to the hook, but that can change depending how you tie it.
Two identical rigs below with hairs done for 16mm baits, hair extenders work to a degree but i find that awkward with hard or plastic tipped baits,
solution, bait floss, cut a 5-6 inch length , pass through the hair and double up, put baits on needle, loop over floss and pull through,
one will be on the hair, one on the floss, a few overhand knots and a baitstop if required, voila same rig ,double bait, snowman etc.
If i'm using a heli setup, then the big eye quick change swivels are ideal (bottom of the pic) coupled with a A.T sleeve,
This is also useful when you have a fish in the net, unclip the rig take the rod away then sort the fish out on the mat, saves trying to carry both if your on your own.
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just got some suffix stiff silt, seems a bit wirey but braid underneath looks good, sure a bit of a steam will straighten it out nicely..
ill tie some rigs and give it a go, was only £6 on ebay for 20m so much cheaper than N-trap!
I use a lot of the coated suffix range, your right that silt is very wirey, not keen myself, odd occasion i'd use it for a boom section for a combi .









What Is This Rig?
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Probably n-trap onto a krank hook.