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Aka fixed giz rig!!! I've seen the gardener things working well recently... Was quite comical, two guys on standard controller set up, one with a beach caster and one on a suspender float.. the suspender was the only one that caught, 3 to the suspender none to the others!

Charlieg I now make you my personal hook advisor!!

Thank you charlieg for making my search easier, funny as I tend to avoid korda because of all the hype!

Yeah, I'll definatley look into the Krank choddy, going to have a look at the krank v the owners, I tend not too look at promo stuff much which is why I've missed these!

Interesting charlieg, I can't seem to find a clear enough picture to compare the two, if this is the case I find it interesting that the write ups on guru and korda, say they are designed by different fellows.... I'm going to go to a shop and compare the qm1's and the Krank that is already out. In my searching I've found an owner c3 hook which I like the look of, have also found a n eBay seller offering 20 of these for £1.29! To good to be true??? probably !

Ok so I think I've found my answer... This is copied from a post in 2009 on a different forum by a chap called David Burr... "I've used them, not quite like the one in the picture but the full-on circle hook with a similar design to the long-liners original. In theory they are great but in practice not so. Long-liners kill all they catch, nuff said. I experimented on the river and had four bites hooking four fish, two chub and two barbel. The chub were easy to unhook and were none the worse but the barbel were a different story. Having thick, rubbery lips the hook set deep and was extremely difficult to extract. To remove the hook you have to turn it back through the arc that it has traveled in, but with such a thick lip there was little room to turn the hook and it took much longer than any other hook I have used. I immediately abandoned any further experiments and would NOT use them on carp"

Yes Newmarket, screen shot, sorry!

I've used the qm1's which are very circular in shape but not with the point bent like the other examples, the small experience I have with qm1's was quite incredible, as Rob said is was fishing for single figure carp but the hook holds were great, no signs of movement and amazingly sharp out of the packet. I wonder if the larger versions would have a similar effect to a bent hook, however the issues with a bent hook seem to more with smaller carp due how they rattle about when hooked. My only concern with the qm1 is whether they'd straighten out when playing a larger carp.

Has anyone or does anyone use these hooks? My main question is if they were made in a larger size and stronger gauge do you think they would be good? And do you think they'd cause excessive mouth damage? Are the qm1's based on these...? To my eyes these look dangerous...

This is something I used to have happen but haven't for quite some time, it may just be chance but I know what I do now compared to then is leave the net in the water with the fish in so it can compose itself before being hoiked out onto the mat, and as I'm doing this it gives me time to breathe and then I tend to check if the fins are flat to the fishes body and its dorsel doesn't look as though it'll get stuck in the net. This may well be what you do and it still happens , so just ignore me if that's the case!! Good man for asking about it either way, I feel quite bad when this has happened to me

Nice one Newmarket, thanks, not sure how I mixed that one! That is how I'd do it I think, definitely wouldn't be twisting the hook about inside the wound. Just thought I'd ask as I've seen it mentioned a few times and thought there might be something i was missing. If I'd a choice, I'd go micro barb...

I really don't know where I stand on this, until I started on this forum I always thought barbless was the best option, but there are quite a few statements like this about the hook coming out and back in, which does worry me, as it makes sense this can happen. My worry with barbless is the difficulty a fish would have loosing the rig if the line snaps. What is the correct way to take out a barbed hook?