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Anyway back to the original question , im surprised if CM hasnt got a solution to this .

Yes mate thats how a gauge my "inch" I've been known to use a KD , its only a Kk with the hair lifted after 3 or 4 turns and the kk completed underneath the hair so that the hair kicks out at an angle . A drilled/corked bottom bait or a shot-on-the -hair pop up . Kenny Dorsett used it to best effect with a critically balanced bait i believe. Im a weirdo mate , i've been known to fish a bottom baited Choddy at times

Am i the only one concerned by the fact that the owner of this lake FEEDS Halibut pellets to his Carp ?

Hi Muft , jenks yeah . Dont start me off .

NICE Matty

It can be a bit of a pain shortening hairs so i tend to have 3 or 4 tied up just in case , its not as if i have no spare tme when im on the bank I can do the same for longer hairs as well , its no real hardship but a lazy boys solution could be the Korda (and other companies) extenda stops ? Keep em coming Sam matey

Explained much better than this copycat ever could , thanks Nick

Hi Ian , i stole the theory off our Nick originally I tend to start off with long hairs and seem to get a good % of decent hookholds but if its a bit off centre or in the scissors i shorten it a tad but if that doesnt work then i try lengthening even more It really is trial & error , continually getting runs but failing to connect i sometimes put it down to small fish with smaller mouths and try shortening quite considerably . Which has been known to work too . Having fished the same lake (till this season) for a long time has taught me that ( i think ) most of the fish feed in a similar fashion so i just stick to the inch gap and tend to avoid these scenarios now. When i get to fish my new water regularly i expect i'll have to start from scratch .

These may solve your problem http://www.fishing-mart.com.pl/sklep/en/arma-point-d-rig-ls-4-a195-p2459-k16318.html

Hello again mate , i usually like to have an inch between the top of the boilie and the hook as a starting point and then if i start getting what appear to be not connecting to the fish or suspicious 'bites' then i either lengthen or shorten the hair and/or the hooklength but as i usually fish a standard running set up with (usually) a pendant lead as opposed to inline i dont really think hooklength length , as such , matters so much. I feel that maybe a long hair coupled with a balanced hookbait of some sort kind of flys in the fishes mouth easier. It probably would matter with a bolt though ( CM would know bout those). I dont get on the bank too often but when i do i never seem to get these sorts of problems and when i did these lads on here sorted it out for me. Im quite proud of the fact that my "fish landed to takes received" ratio is very good . Cant help thinking that this particular prob here is more to do with the baiting method/scenario rather than rig issues though i admit i wouldnt be having the tubing or coated braid , it would always be naked ( lakebed permitting) and either uncoated braid or , to the other extreme , a mono or fluoro hooklength , rather than coated braid with bits peeled off here & there . Simple as i can always , including spreading the freebies . No good fishing beds of bait with running rigs . Hope MY take on it has been of use to someone peeps

Thats a bit cheeky .... I've used the set up quite a bit and caught using it so i can only explain how i had mine set up Firstly i have no swan mussels or snags or sharp gravel there so i see no need for any leader or tubing on the line , theres no need for anyrhing like that , it sticks out like a sore thumb and imo it's possible that it may interfere with the sensitivity that the set up is supposed to offer with an inline. So , i have a 1.75oz inline lead , insert removed and replaced with a Gardner anti-tangle sleeve trimmed down , just to be 100% confident that the line moves freely through the lead. This is threaded on the mainline and a Gardner quick-lock swivel tied to the end . This fits snugly into the anti-tangle sleeve . Note snugly not tightly . Remember its a running set up Then my hooklength can be looped neatly onto the quick change swivel in an instant if you want to change hooklength. No fancy hooklength just about 6 or 7 inches i spose of uncoated braid , the sinking variety (some float or are neutral) Just a normal straightforward Knotless knot with a long hair and very sharp hook . Because where i fish has a thin layer of Algae on the bottom i use a pop up boilie with a small split shot beneath it on the hair to make a slightly bouyant bottom bait or wafter . This usually fished over a spread of whole and halved matching freebies and always with a slack line . Slack but not too slack , the line though slack should be straight and direct from rod tip to end tackle , this aids indication as well imo . Make sure your hook is plenty big enough and very sharp , sharp not just new out the packet , and if your getting pick ups but they are falling off i would be experimenting with the length of the hair , shortening or lengthening it till you feel your getting it right . The effect of the carp pulling the H/L swivel from the ant-tangle sleeve should be enough to set the hook but if your not sure stick your line into one of those little plastic line clips that you can fit on your rod near the reel (bout 30 bob in tackle shop), that'll do the trick . Thats how i have mine and why . But i prefer a pendant lead with a large run ring though thats a different thread of which there are lots , i hope this is of some help Sam and bear in mind Nigel ( above) may be right

Right well having fished with this set up myself im qualified to answer Try and post the pic first and then i'll be able to get a better idea although , tbh , i think i know what i'll say anyway . All i'll say for now is that just because you are Legering it shouldnt be assumed that the fish will just hook itself . You are not using a semi-fixed bolt rig .

Sam . Afternoon mate . Any chance of you posting a piccy of your set up ? During the short duration of the thread theres a few terms that im not familiar with . From the replies you received i think , for some reason , it has been assumed that you were fishing with a bolt rig of sorts . I think you have been trying to use an inline running lead , like in the Joe Morgan video . Am i right ? Sounds like a photo , if you can post one , will help . Your "anti-ejection" kk for one

Gotta love a chub , nice one Nick

I've used it myself at times mate . Superb indication , no messing .

Oh mate , try Horseshoe . FAMOUS carp lake , members on here like Nige always bang on about what a good water it is , i'd love a go myself , take the opportunity .....

Sam , being a massive advocate of running leads and hater of lead clups i suggest some reading material http://www.carp.com/topic/1872-semi-fixed-bolt-or-running-leads/

I'm certainly not convinced of that .yes it will be fishing pretty much whereever you sling it but i couldnt call the Chod a 'general all-round rig. It was designed , i believe , for fishong in silt , and i have used it quite a bit in recent years when Fishing a lake covered in a thin layer of filamous algae as i think it gives a pretty good presentation in cases like that . However as somebody else has said , i wouldnt dream of using it over clean gravel and would be very dubious of its use in heavy weed especially the lakebed to surface stuff. A search of the forum will bring up good alternatives including a paternoster-type rig i believe , that i know Nick and CM to name but two , are big fans of . Imo there is no general purpose rig like a simple standard kk rig in various materials , on a running set up () , simply because of its versatility and its ability to be used for upteen different applications with a tiny tweak to suit conditions . I have used the Choddy a lot over the years but because conditions dictated it , in my opinion of course

Thought i'd add some more pics , this time mostly of recent additions to the menagerie Firstly , the Canary has 2 chicks and 2 eggs underneath her . Note the soppy dove directly below her who decided to build a nest and lay eggs in a food bowl doh !!!! Some Californian Quail The Quail in the foreground has the 'ump because i removed his 2 favourite hens ! I had to , he had ridden them almost to death and they are recuperating literally with holes in their heads through excess pecking Finally some more newbies . Californians:

An interesting read though . Im surprised the Dudkey Dinosaur is missing tbh . All the usual suspects are in there though .

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9904876/premier-leagues-best-manager-sir-alex-ferguson-comes-top-of-study

The point is mate that nobody conceded silly amounts of goals and that the ladies game has a long way to go to make it palatable (to me). Ironically , and this is just my opinion , England were , in a couple of the games , not too far away from a BFS style team . Contain , contain , contain , strike , park the bus . Not all their games but a couple for sure . I even joked last week that that Sampson bloke should be in charge of the mens team . Changes his team & tactics to suit the opposition .

Quite . As do thailand & the other countries that lost by cricket scores during the ladies world cup . Dal , i think the Gernany/brazil game in the mebs competition may have been a one-off freak scoreline mate

And thats the world cup final ? That says it all im afraid .

I agree mr Stickmix (although that video could be accused of being a tiny bit misleading due to recommending minimum 20lb leaders before the naked Chod was even mentioned ?) in 'choddy' situations but for a general all round rig ?