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Neal did you find the one that I linked in this thread http://www.carp.com/topic/21804-baitworks-boilies/

It is odd isn't it gagna! Serious flaw in an Industry if the majority of products aren't trusted!! Anything fishing related if it is genuinely a top product I would happily pay top dollar, but it is a lot of hearsay and opinion. Confidence is worth a big price tag. It'd be great to find a reviewer that did genuine and honest like for like tests . (I may even try it myself!) I found a Carp mag article testing baits all I can find was an article where baitworks let their boilies be tank tested. Best advert ever!! Maybe there was other baits tested but I can't find the articles, anyone else see it? But where are the other companies putting their wares up against others? Would be great to see the top carp companies have a match, independent judges, they use their own gear, I wonder how many would be confident enough to enter without pulling strokes?

I say again , can nobody produce a hook that we can use with confidence , or at least a little more confidence !

Well seeing as you seem to know a great deal about this sort of thing, that can only be a good news, providing like you said they don't mess up the production process Funnily enough I saw the vid for these yesterday and was going to ask you about them. luckily you beat me to it

http://esp-carpgear.com/news/e-s-p-cryogen-a-hook-revolution/ I've heard of the treatment used to harden these and believe it's the first time it has been used for hooks - if it's done well these could be a genuine step forward. It'll be interesting to hear feedback when they're released.