stack rig

[djm_josh]

hi

has anybody got any advise on the use of the stack rig, what bait and what pop up to use,or what size hook would you use, cheers darren

[Guest Anonymous]

Do you mean a snowman rig?

if not let me know what you mean and i'll help ya

[bestcarper]

hi adam

its not a snowman rig its when you use 3 or 4 baits on one hair

and one of the baits being a pop up

[Guest Anonymous]

3 or 4!! christ!! i'd want to be using a size 4 or 6 hook, suppose it depends how big the baits are.

Is this a new rig in a magazine by any chance?

[djm_josh]

no this rig is about 20 years old but not often used,

tim paisley and rod hutchinson used it, with a lot of sucess

[beanz]

i dont understand what your after

 

 

id use baits that work on the water im fishing and the same with sizes and then match the hook to the bait , i never used more than 1 of each(bottom pop up) to make a snowman but like adam said a bigger hook would seem the way to go

 

but its down to how much you want to use this rig???

then just keep trying different things till it works which may not work next time but that all the fun of fishing

 

the chase and pitting your wits againts the carp

 

if i caught big fish every cast i get bored i think and start playing golf and chase perfection

[djm_josh]

thanks for your advise

i was just wondering about the rig because i havent used it and just wondered if anybody esle had

[beanz]

id never heard of it, but now i think it may be worth a go if fishing in soft silt, you could build the baits up till 1 sat like a single??????

 

cheers:D

[djm_josh]

good idea

the idea of 3 or more baits is that the the carp have problems ejecting it , last week i was getting the odd bleep and i just wondered if they were ejecting my bait with out being hooked thats when i read about this rig and thought i wondered if anybody esle had tried it, cheers

fishing wed 36 hrs and am going to give it ago will let you know how it goes

[Guest Anonymous]

My opinion is that you would have trouble getting the fish to pick it up in the first place! not really natural is it? how many boilies do carp suck in that are attached to 3 others?

[beanz]

thats the bit that would worry me

 

the hook is the bit i want the fish to pick up so less on it the better

 

i use fake baits a lot with pva bag to increase the chance of hooking a fish

 

but il used at some point as its got potential

[Guest Anonymous]

If you want to use a bait thats hard to eject use a 40mm boilie, this would be better as I have witnessed carp trying to suck in big stones before.

[dbailiff]

I seldom use less than 3 x 14 mm baits and have used as many a 5 x 14mm's in France.

 

I have caught fish as small as 1.5lbs on 3 baits + bream and Tench so if they can take it the bigger ones have no problems.

 

Creates excellent anti eject , loads of stuff to rattle around in the Carps mouth.

[gaspanic]

crap!! i saw a pic of it somewhere but I cant remember where for the life of me, I'll start looking.

[Guest Anonymous]

I seldom use less than 3 x 14 mm baits and have used as many a 5 x 14mm's in France.

 

I have caught fish as small as 1.5lbs on 3 baits + bream and Tench so if they can take it the bigger ones have no problems.

 

Creates excellent anti eject , loads of stuff to rattle around in the Carps mouth.

 

Not saying they cant take it because its to big just saying its not a very natural presentation.

[ceelyr]

Only time i've used this type of method was done with 3 tiny pineapple pop ups cut down to look like corn...i did it because i ran out of the real stuff half way into my session! Any way it worked ok (2 commons both around 9lb) but i had worries over the presentation so have not used it since.

I gotta say i think using 5 big boilies is going a bit far...I'd rather just put on a big donkey choker.

[gaspanic]

naw, I cant find it for toffee, its simply just a hook with about 4 hairs (with bait) instead of the usual 1.

[dbailiff]

Not saying they cant take it because its to big just saying its not a very natural presentation.

 

Whats natural????? How many snails do they pick up that are stuck to stones, bits of weed etc.? How about an 8" lob worm?

 

It's food and a good sized portion, so all they will want to do is get it down their neck.

[dbailiff]

naw, I cant find it for toffee, its simply just a hook with about 4 hairs (with bait) instead of the usual 1.

 

it's just a long hair with 3-4 baits on it. The multi hair rig is something totally different.

[gaspanic]

oh right, I've tried it then, when my PVA stringer didnt melt properly and got stuck together lol

[Guest Anonymous]

Whats natural????? How many snails do they pick up that are stuck to stones, bits of weed etc.? How about an 8" lob worm?

 

It's food and a good sized portion, so all they will want to do is get it down their neck.

 

 

Only my opinion but i'd say 1 boilie was most natural, when a carp picks up your free baits/boilie's these are not joined to 3 or 4 others are they? therefor 4 boilies on a hair is not natural imo.

[dbailiff]

Only my opinion but i'd say 1 boilie was most natural, when a carp picks up your free baits/boilie's these are not joined to 3 or 4 others are they? therefor 4 boilies on a hair is not natural imo.

 

I know what your saying, but how different is the hook bait already? it's heavier (due to the hook) and it's attached to a hook link of some sort.

 

multiple baits are far more difficult for the Carp to deal with ejection wise than a single bait are are different to what most anglers are doing eg single baits;)

[beanz]

has any put a pop up on the end or 3 or 4 and made it stand up and caught???????

 

thats what i want to know as i cant get my head around how well it hooks em

 

i like the idea of trying this instead of a short zig

[gaspanic]

I wouldnt feel confident using more than 2 baits.

[djm_josh]

hi ive been away for a few days, i didnt catch on the stack but one lad caught 4 and 3 were 20lbs plus fish so it does work. his method was 2 bottom baits and 1 pop up. so i will keep trying thanks for all your help