DIY Petfood Boilies Advise Please

[Barney2]

Nothing binds like eggs, I tried loads of fish in a mix before and it ends up too soft. I don’t want high liquid content I don’t like soft baits and don’t want to start messing around with endless powdered hardeners

besides I think eggs are underrated

we are somewhat partial to them and so are the carp they’re magical food

Im not making bulk here I’m making a useful tub of base feed/tough hookbaits which complements my other old favourite trickery such as pimped up ABS, DT frozen etc plus some top secret tiger nuts which took me years of trial and error to get right

(they are both soft and highly shelf life and I use no preservatives in there whatsoever)

Edited yesterday at 12:16 by Barney2

[Barney2]

It’s very easy (well not actually) to create a faffy and expensive glorified slowish breakdown roach groundbait..

I don’t want to feed the roach and that’s why I don’t like soft boilies

[elmoputney]

1 hour ago, Barney2 said:

It’s very easy (well not actually) to create a faffy and expensive glorified slowish breakdown roach groundbait..

I don’t want to feed the roach and that’s why I don’t like soft boilies

Depends on your water though, I've found that feeding rudd can also make the carp feed with gusto, they stay the party as it where. 

[salokcinnodrog]

17 minutes ago, elmoputney said:

Depends on your water though, I've found that feeding rudd can also make the carp feed with gusto, they stay the party as it where. 

Get the small rudd feeding on my water, the tench move in, often followed by the carp. 

It's why I frequently put in a bucket of mashed bread and birdfood. The small seeds and bread keep the rudd amused, boilies pick up tench and carp. 

[Barney2]

Nah that roach activity old chestnut doesn’t work on some tough lakes

better some places just chance your luck to have intact hookbaits waiting for a long time in the right places

the right amount of roach (thousands) will muller everything soft and bitty you give them, and I don’t want to lug their banquet around!

[Barney2]

I ditched it in the end

mix really annoying texture, hard to form, roll and bind despite being very well blitzed with over 20% semolina and 10% albumen.. pet biscuits are strange formulations, never mind

I got tired of making bait and never got on great with it despite being a highly confident experienced cook

So I just bought some really nice frozen boilie paste instead which I will custom roll how I want it

[elmoputney]

57 minutes ago, Barney2 said:

I ditched it in the end

mix really annoying texture, hard to form, roll and bind despite being very well blitzed with over 20% semolina and 10% albumen.. pet biscuits are strange formulations, never mind

I got tired of making bait and never got on great with it despite being a highly confident experienced cook

So I just bought some really nice frozen boilie paste instead which I will custom roll how I want it

That's a shame was looking forward to seeing you catch loads of fish on your new mix. 

[B B]

22 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said:

Get the small rudd feeding on my water, the tench move in, often followed by the carp

We used the same technique on the Carp society’s horseshoe lake when after the big tench,  then the carp would take over. 
 

Elmo would have been in his element catching them big Rudd  🤔

[elmoputney]

22 minutes ago, B B said:

We used the same technique on the Carp society’s horseshoe lake when after the big tench,  then the carp would take over. 
 

Elmo would have been in his element catching them big Rudd  🤔

I am hoping they do another rudd match at the syndicate this year, loved it last time, and we got to stock them in their new home, The pest pond 😂

[Barney2]

I just didn’t like the texture Elmo mate, I don’t have much time for fishing and got proven, tested paste from a successful firm instead

bit of a shame but never mind, I will ditch the dig biscuits and try something else but sometimes it makes sense to trust the experts

[Barney2]

Dog.. lol damn iPhone spellcheck 

[salokcinnodrog]

4 hours ago, elmoputney said:

I am hoping they do another rudd match at the syndicate this year, loved it last time, and we got to stock them in their new home, The pest pond 😂

Is that Earith?

The shoals of rudd on there I used to see. I ended with a couple over 2lb.

[elmoputney]

7 minutes ago, Barney2 said:

I just didn’t like the texture Elmo mate, I don’t have much time for fishing and got proven, tested paste from a successful firm instead

bit of a shame but never mind, I will ditch the dig biscuits and try something else but sometimes it makes sense to trust the experts

Would it have worked better if you used less dog biscuit crumb and more of something else do you think ? 

[elmoputney]

14 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

Is that Earith?

The shoals of rudd on there I used to see. I ended with a couple over 2lb.

That was 4 hours worth that my daughter caught, nothing that big yet but we were just bashing them out on the whip, might get the match rod out this year and try further out  for some bigger ones, I do quite enjoy watching a float sometimes. 

[Barney2]

Trouble with DIY is it’s easy to make something rubbish, heavy and unsuitable for carp

That conscientiousness tended to spoil my bait making adventures

But I wish the multi million industry would use higher quality ingredients such as non factory eggs and organic non GM etc

I was very shocked to find out a “highly regarded” big name old school ingredient supplier uses GM ingredients in their mixes

we are talking BIG name who supplies EVERYONE