levigsp Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 This is the second time these people have been caught and they are not the only ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptXh0FtNN0&sns=fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Shame to see but I always thought if you caught a catfish on the eBro you were supposed to kill it by law,obviously not the carp and other species though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 What IS it with these people ffs ? WHY ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Shame to see but I always thought if you caught a catfish on the eBro you were supposed to kill it by law,obviously not the carp and other species though. Not so, certain areas you are not allowed to kill fish, regardless. I know a large area of the Top lake/ sea of aragon, is classed as a nature reserve, so no killing. But this scum are not angling for the table, they are longlining and netting for comersial reasons and shipping everything over to Romania or anywhere else they can sell the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Not so, certain areas you are not allowed to kill fish, regardless. I know a large area of the Top lake/ sea of aragon, is classed as a nature reserve, so no killing. But this scum are not angling for the table, they are longlining and netting for comersial reasons and shipping everything over to Romania or anywhere else they can sell the fish. That answered my question thanks Frank. Scum indeed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Frank , just out of pure interest, I suspect you are not a carp specific angler from your posts, and your pro life as a Ghillie , do you think the modern day carp angler is as good as the old school, Ray Clay, Richard Walker , Chris Yeats, or is it much easier than it was hence these websites, and on your travels , the bad guys aside, has fishing gone the same way Europe wide or is it just a local phenomena. I have spent most of my life as carp angler, but I have drifted in different directions at various times. I think there has always been good and poor anglers but a lot it depends on the type of fishing. Purely carp I would say some of the old anglers were better, they had less fish to go for, poorer gear etc, but they produced, however there are still some anglers in the same class. Sea fishing, they are far better now, they have to be with the lack of fish etc. And when it comes to specimen anglers, they are now head and shoulders above the anglers of yesteryear, for a number of reasons, some being better gear, better thinking and understanding etc. But this has nothing to do with whats going on in Spain, Italy etc, this is just greedy scum, systematicly netting waters of everything that swims for the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 That's twice in less than a week on this forum I've read that it would be better if the Berlin Wall was still up Tim first now you cm ........ Ridiculous statement ! Try telling that to the millions upon millions of people it's benefited. No wonder it's so quiet on here these days with stupid statements like this being branded about . merry Xmas and good will to all men ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 That's twice in less than a week on this forum I've read that it would be better if the Berlin Wall was still up Tim first now you cm ........ Ridiculous statement ! Try telling that to the millions upon millions of people it's benefited. No wonder it's so quiet on here these days with stupid statements like this being branded about . merry Xmas and good will to all men ! Oi Phil i never said it would be BETTER mate . Im not getting involved in this one im just sad for the fish and the environment wherever it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborx Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 dont matter how we all feel about whats going on really, we can post till the cows come home but unless someone who really cares accidentally becomes prime minister it aint gonna happen is it :evil: newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Let me state clearly that I am not racist, far from it. I do however hate free loaders and scum comming into the UK or anywhere else for that matter. Since the communist grip of eastern europe was relaxed the whole of Europe has beneffited. However the UK joining the common market was the first step on the ladder of the destruction of GREAT Britain. Now to the Point. if you go to the countries where these poachers originate you often find laws far moor severe than here, eg Poland, Rumania, Ukraine etc etc, in all these countries if ytou are caught with fish above a certain size you lose everything including your freedom. Thats great in them countries because the fish all breed VERY succesfully and there is a huge harvestable surpluss of fish, that can be caught and eaten, but over a certain size they are put back to breed, whereas in the UK the fish simply dont breed like that and there is no harvestable surpluss. Its no different to us harvesting wood pigeons that over populate the uk, but in Europe, where they dont breed as well they are protected in the main. However a small minority of people can see the oppertunety in countries that have little wildlife law enforcement to catch native wildlife for markets in other counties, eg the netting taking place in Spain Germany, Uk, Ireland etc, and the vwholesale slaughter of Swans, Geese etc the the UK and Ireland. These people are often not Countrymen, fishermen etc, they simply hear and see anglers catches and find on the internet and from books ways of harvesting these fish etc. This last lot in Spain will be deported etc, but there are many more that get away with it. Until everybody conserned, anglers, dog walkers police etc get together and start talking, they the poaches will get away with it. With my own eyes I have seen poaching completely ignored by anglers both here and in other european countries. Yet one phonecall and its often delt with. chillfactor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivvystreet Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Not a nice sight at all that video to put it mildly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Here is a picture taken earlier this year in caspe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivvystreet Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Punishment should fit the crime,the amount of money involved must be substantial and therefore should warrant lengthy jail but I'll bet it never did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Ck me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 It is sad, they have problems with netters and longliners and we have our own problems with cormorants and other vermin. End of the day the best place for all of these preditors is, strung up outside a gamekeepers gibbit, regardless of what breed the virmin is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Here is a program from a couple of days ago, sickening to watch:http://alacarta.aragontelevision.es/programas/unidad-movil/pesca-furtiva-12122014-2131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Here is a program from a couple of days ago, sickening to watch:http://alacarta.aragontelevision.es/programas/unidad-movil/pesca-furtiva-12122014-2131Unless of course you are trying to watch it on an Apple device . Ok Dal you win Just as well , if Frank says its sickening then it would probably upset me anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted December 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Again a couple of days later, Hungarians this time:http://www.aragondigital.es/noticia.asp?notid=127374&secid=31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivvystreet Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Can only hope that something is done before it's too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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