Leaders, leaders, leaders

[gifted]

i am gonna start using leaders the quicksilver leadcore so it will pin my rig down and help with casting but can sum1 tell me how to tie it to the mailine and swivel properly because i hear it can be quite dangerous but i do have a gud idea but just wanna make sure thx

[chrispayne]

needle knot to the mainline, and all the end tackle MUST be able to pass over this.

[gifted]

does it tell u how to tie it in the quicksilver pack if not have u got any pics so i can learn thx

[chrispayne]

it should say, but i cant be sure. I no it tells you on the ESP lead core. ERm stry doing a search on google mate there should be pics somewhere

[gifted]

found summat is this it m8?

http://www.fishandfly.co.uk/knots/needle/print.html

 

and wot bout attching it to the swivel which knot

[mvodkaman]

palomar

[paulcreedon]

Use a Splice if you're tying Lead-core to a swivel as it leaves the line flush. Make sure that there's at least 2 inches (5mm) of leadcore with the lead removed spliced inside it self to be safe. Kryston Score in 45lb is the easiest to work with. Any of the leadcores under 30lb are a nightmare to work on.

[paulcreedon]

Forgot to mention to use Korda shockleader sleeves if you're using Korda leads. This allows the Lead to pass over the Shockleader knot in case the line breaks and the fish is trailing a rig.

[darkstar]

You could also join them with the loop to loop method, as long as you have spliced a good loop in the leadcore, it is safe and the lead can easily pass over the loops.

[gifted]

thx im gonna get quicksilver do u know how long it should be and can i leave it on my spool for a long time or do i take i off after each session?

[polesman]

M8 I THINK YOU NEED TO GET A BOOK..........YEA (EVERYONE SAYS)

[ouchthathurt]

the needle knot link you have shown is the knot i use. but thats for leadcore, not quicksilver, its too thin to tie using the needle knot and will unravel.

 

why is it you feel you need to fish a leader anyway? are you fishing over savage gravel bars? or swan mussel beds? or in thick snags? or are you casting 4-5oz leads a long distance?

 

99.99% of the time, normal rig tube is a much simpler alternative and can offer the same benifits to leaders but are easier to use. if you are not happy about tying them, then dont cast it out, if the worst should happen, you need rigs that are 100% safe. stick to tubing its easier to use and much safer than relying on knots you are not happy tying in the first place.

 

get a book, practice the knots and rigs and fish in confidence knowing the rigs you have lobbed out are carp safe.

 

[gifted]

yer but im not convinced rig tubing pins the rig down as much as i wud like

[ouchthathurt]

then use anchor rig tube and flying backleads. that will pin it down flatter than any quicksilver leader will ever do. quicksilver, being a braided material does have a certian amount of bouyancy, so it wont lie perfectly flat either, if it did, then leadcore would be unnecessary. anchor rig tube has been proven to be denser than most leadcore leaders out there. use those and get yourself some gardener flying backleads. they will pin everything dead flat without the need for leaders and such like.

 

[gifted]

so how long should the anchor rig tubing be and would a flying back lead run over the tubing easily enough?

[ouchthathurt]

the flying backlead goes on the mainline behind the tubing. i use between 1-2ft of tubing. its good stuff, and far simpler than fiddling around with needles, lighters and splicing bits and bobs! i use leadcore because i love it, yet it all comes down to personal preference, at the end of the day, the tubing and the 'core do the same basic job.

 

[gifted]

ok m8 y r u such a big fan of leadcore neways?

[ouchthathurt]

i couldnt really say to be honest, because i dont know! i would be just as happy using tubing, but i used leadcore years ago, before i started using tubing. leadcore was origianally a flyline, i had loads of the stuff, so i used it. it was no where near as good as what is for sale now. if i had started using tubing more when i started carping, then chances are i would still be on it. either material does the job well, but tubing is more user friendly. ive got esp rig tube in my tacklebox as well. and still use it from time to time.

 

[gifted]

k cheers ouch i think ill give both a go an dtry testing em too in some water

[ouchthathurt]

ive just brought some ESP tubing to replace the leadcore in my rigs as im fishing tight to snags and i feel tubing is safer in the event of snagging/snapping up.

 

[gifted]

is it the anchor rig tubing if so let me know if its gud

[albert0109]

i have just started using the total fishing/matt hayes clear sinking leaders. might be a coincedence but beat my personal best common and mirror in one 8 hour session.

so i can only recommend on personal experience

[mvodkaman]

ouch have you tried the gardner leadcore really low diameter usually use esp tubing but gardner leadcore for slack line margin fishing.

[ouchthathurt]

no, i usually just stick to a brand. so its the ESP 'core for me. ive had no problems with it. i used the 'sinktube' by ESP this last session, not 100% impressed with it yet, but ive a few little things i can do to it to make it better, so i may well grow to like it.

 

[kidda]

i use a back to back blood knot. with the shockleader having 5 twists over the mainline. and the mainline with only three. it seems to fly through the eyes on my rod with no problem!