carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Right guys i bought myself a few things at the local tackle store and got some bits and bobs sorted. The water im planning on fishing is pretty silty and opten for the chod rig. im using a cell pop up and was wondering if i should use a pva bag with some crushed boilies and mixed pellets or would that ruin the presentation of the bait? also im using tungsten tubing and was wondering whats the best way to get the line through as its a [censored]. put it in a bowl of boiling water that helped alot but seems to get stuck somewhere about the tubing could someone please suggest another way! thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inhiding Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 I personally am not a big chod user , but , my understanding is that the bent section with the pop up on is free to swivel around the leader, as such putting it in a pva bag shouldn't affect the presentation as once it melts the pop ups bouyency should pull it up into the correct position, unless you pack the bag so tightly that you get boilie crumb or what ever gunning up the swivel eye.... I guess the best answer would be to try it in the margin first for the sake of your confidence, As for threading the tubing, cut the line at an angle and make sure it and everything else is dry and let gravity help you, failing that if the bore of the tubing is sufficient can you thread a needle in to give the line some end weight , failing that buy the stuff with the threading wire in it There is also a tool I think to help you , but I don't know it's name I'm afraid but I bet some one on here does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 thanks alot mate! thats just what i was looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 thats a very interesting question in your original post with regards to the possible use of pva with your choddie , something indeed that i have been pondering myself recently i`ve always thought of the chod as a rig best used when employing the single hookbait approach but since its been mentioned in a round about way on this thread i`d like to hear everybody elses ideas on the subject . spodding aside (never like to scare the fish away personally) , what does everybody think of , as the best way to place a few freebies around around your hookbait when using the chod rig ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoogi Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Have a look for a diamond threader, if you still have trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 just going to attempt in now should i place the tungsten in a bowl of boiling hot water but keep the ends out to keep the inside dry and hopefully it will expand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inhiding Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Good luck and yes diamond threader was what I meant .... I generally use plain old rig tubing so not sure if heating the tungsten will help ... I do know that if the bore of the tubing is wet you might as well forget it , As for the more general question about how to get freebies out I was thinking about this too it occurs that there is no reason that pva bagging wouldn't work aside from what I have previously mentioned , in order to combat this problem I guess you could deliberately poke a bit of pva foam into the swivel eye to stop anything else getting in there, once in the water this would dissolve theoretically leaving a blockage free eye ...... I think ;-/ Be a lot simpler to be accurate with your catapult though given the option I would have thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 i was thinking more along the lines of maybe a small necklace stringer tied to the lead or something similar ? my catapulting is about as accurate as my throwing sticking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 ofc, if I just drop the weight in the pva amongst my mix they tie it up leaving my hook line untouched. What was another suggestion i thought was maybe put on a piece of pva foam on my hook so it stays boyant and that should do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 i wouldnt have thought you need to put a nugget on the hook ? the fact that you`d be using a pop up means its self-bouyant (is that a real term ? ). i`d just make sure the beads are up the line a tad just in case...... until anybody comes up with a better suggestion (and i`m certain they can) i`m still thinking the necklace is favourite . i`m also toying with the idea of maybe using some of those nash soluble thingys attached somehow to the business end but i cant remember what they are called . ah , chain reaction thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 would you say the hook being 4 inches away from the weight is ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zammmo Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Use a long peice of fuse wire to thread your line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 well , the lake i fish has a layer of about 2 inches of soft weedy stuff on the bottom all over the lake so i just make sure the bead is 2 inches or more above the lead . having said that i`ve only ever fished a choddie as a single hookbait . this is why i`m so interested to read other peoples opinions on the whole pva/freebie-round-the-hookbait thing ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 i know it may sound stupid but how would i find out how weedy or silty it is so i can be accurate on how to present my bait i just got told it is quite silty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 look up feature finding or fishing in silt using the search facility mate , i`m certainly no expert though there are quite a few on here that will be glad to help i`m sure . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 yep i found this, this should help me a lot hopefully Cast out your marker float and let the lead hit the bottom. With the rod pointing towards the lead reel in the line until you feel the float tighten up to the lead. Gently pull line from the reel, roughly a foot at a time. When the marker float pops up stop counting and this number plus the extra foot from the end of the stiff link will be an estimate of the depth of where you cast, remember the depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zammmo Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Sorry don't see how that tells you the depth of the silt Attach a peice of white string to the end of you line put a lead on the end of the string whack it out bingo depth of silt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpling Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 haha thats a very good idea! thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops_northants Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Guys, if you can hook a pva bag on your choddie and cast it out without the bag weight dragging the hooklink all the way up your mainline then you souldnt be fishing. For that to happen the link would need to be fixed. With this type of arrangement the hooklink should be free to slide off in the event of a crack off or the line snapping. With so many people using this rig and so many that try to re create the wheel when is not necessary issues arise. use it as its intended and the results will be just fine and the fish you fish for much safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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