burg Posted February 23, 2011 Report Posted February 23, 2011 Hi Guys me and 4 others are heading to france for our first french carping experience in April. The lake we are going to is new and will have been fished 2-3 times when we get there. Anyways, i just wanted to ask what the best approach would be for an untouched lake like this... we havent got too much room in the car so cant really take a large amount of every option. Would maize be a good shout? Are boilies a good optiion on a lake where they havent been seen before? Let me know your thoughts. Cheers Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 23, 2011 Report Posted February 23, 2011 You have answered yourself! Be confident and go do it! Quote
burg Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 I know I know, i wish it was the case but Im just stressing about making sure im covered. Are boilies generally good on a lake where they haent been seen before? Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I know I know, i wish it was the case but Im just stressing about making sure im covered. Are boilies generally good on a lake where they haent been seen before? Once they eat one, they will know what they are Quote
phippers84 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I would say boilies would be an excellent shout, if the fish in that lake do not know what they are they will not be wary of them and should feed confidently on them once they get the taste. I would say make sure you chuck a load in and around the area your fishing and you should be on to winner. as a back up to this, I found a very small lake near me once in the middle of some woods when walking my dog and saw a few carp on the surface so i decided to fish it later that day, I took 2 rods and put a boilie on one and floated with some corn on the other...I had around 15 fish in 4 hours on the boilies (kevin nash banana) and only 1 on the corn. they were only around 8 - 10lbs though. as I was packing up a rather annoyed farmer turned and told me that fishing was not allowed. I apologised and ended up having a long chat with him. he said no-one ever fishes it and he didnt even relalise there were that many fish in there. Have a great time in france. let us know how you get on. Quote
carpquarry Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I would make sure you take pellet and maize also meat and bread, At my lake where the fish had never seen a boilie it took quite a while to get them feeding well on them , thats the stocked fish and the original carp that were in the lake took even longer !!!! just a word of warning dont take just boilies. If the lake you are going too is a new lake with new stocked fish take plenty of 6/8mm pellet. If the lake is an old untouched lake with original fish take everything your can get your hands on and try it all Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 At my lake where the fish had never seen a boilie it took quite a while to get them feeding well on them And why do you think that is CQ??? Quote
carpquarry Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 You tell me, I was feeding them boilies for a long time. I did think they would of been on them in no time and the fishing for the first few groups out back in 2009 would of been easy but it was not to be, maybe to many nauturals in the lake at first when the new stocks were first put in ???? All changed now all they want is pellet and boilies Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 All I can say CQ, Is that I have fished big a (140 acre) unfished low stocked pit, with minimal pre-baiting due to distance and still caught from the off, maybe my bait and watercfaft were spot on, I would love to think so! Quote
carpquarry Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Question is where locals fishing it with boilies, I know all lakes can be different, I think alot depends on stock levels and natural food levels etc etc. Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Question is where locals fishing it with boilies, I know all lakes can be different, I think alot depends on stock levels and natural food levels etc etc. No the lake was fished by only three guys, Crystal clear water, full of weed and full of naturals, and contained no more than 50 Carp, some of which were monsters! But you will never see a pic of them, a true Carp water and anglers! Quote
moorsey Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Hi Guys me and 4 others are heading to france for our first french carping experience in April. The lake we are going to is new and will have been fished 2-3 times when we get there. Anyways, i just wanted to ask what the best approach would be for an untouched lake like this... we havent got too much room in the car so cant really take a large amount of every option. Would maize be a good shout? Are boilies a good optiion on a lake where they havent been seen before? Let me know your thoughts. Cheers Personally I wouldn't use boilies at all. If it has really not been fished before you only need maize in France. Every French fish farmer and angler has used maize for decades and the carp will immediately recognise it and feed on it. It has been my experience that large amounts of maize used for the first couple of time will catch virtually every fishy in the lake. Get on it quick because it won't work for very long. Quote
bass Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Like carpquarry says if the fish are new from a farm they will have been feed small pellets so that will be a good start. I fish a new lake in England myself were the carp came from a fish farm and although the fish eat normal 14 to 15mm boilies I found they would go mental on a mix of 10mm pellets , boilie chops and double 10mm dark fishmeal boilies on the hair. Quote
moorsey Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Like carpquarry says if the fish are new from a farm they will have been feed small pellets so that will be a good start. I fish a new lake in England myself were the carp came from a fish farm and although the fish eat normal 14 to 15mm boilies I found they would go mental on a mix of 10mm pellets , boilie chops and double 10mm dark fishmeal boilies on the hair. I'm afraid I have never seen any French fish farmers nor lake owners using pellets. Quote
martydecarp Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I have fished many waters that have not seen much angling pressure, Boilies did not work for me until they had been introduced a but! What I find did work was bait up with a mixture of big(ish) particles, which included maize, chick peas, maples all bulked out with hemp, wheat and barley, using the big particles as hook baits, I have found that they quickly recognise the bait as a food source, good luck in your endevour Quote
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Sorry Guy's, but Hemp and Maize IS awesome, however a good boilie will still score, even the first time it's used, weaning them on to a bait is a myth, told by bait companys! Quote
carpquarry Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 This is a good topic with so many respected carp.com members having a say and what makes it good is that we all have different views, Thats what makes fishing so great. I do know that my fish farmer only feeds 8mm pellet so that he can get massive weight gains ( upto 33% a year), one type for the summer and another for the winter, With the money the extra weight makes all fish farmers will be doing it soon. I think at the end of the day to answer the question we need to know a bit more about the lake. If this lake is a new stocked lake phone the owner and ask them what the farmer fed the fish on and can you buy some, at the end of the day the lake owner will want you to catch and have a good time so you will return. Quote
burg Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Posted March 1, 2011 Its good to hear different opinions on it. Carpquarry, the lake was stocked in the winter 2009. Im not sure what the owner feeds the fish, he is french, but i have got hold of his number and will attempt to understand! Quote
burg Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Posted March 8, 2011 Also.. When bulk ordering boilies between 5 of you, would it be a better option to all go for a similar one so the carp get used to a particular boilie or mix it up a bit and take a range of flavours, problem with that being theres not too much room in the car. Quote
leggs007 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 i would take some pellet if he has stocked farmed fish they will have been fed on pellets Quote
moorsey Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 i would take some pellet if he has stocked farmed fish they will have been fed on pellets Not necessarily so in France. Quote
burg Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 I was going to go with Malarkie, but wasnt sure if it would be good to get a few different flavours or hit them hard with one, the lakes only about 4 acres. Quote
cobleyn Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 I would take a good amount of 18mm/22mm Halibut pellets. Cheaper than boilies and are instantly accepted by most fish. Quote
Guest keenook Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 I think Mr Moors could be hinting at Maize..... Quote
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