carpbraderz Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 am fishing this lake on the 25th of this month need some help and advice plz ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggs007 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 lots of help very hard water but great rewards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Fish singles and sticks until you know whats going on,the kiss of death can be lots of bait to start with. Small trimmed down baits are well worth a go. Stay away from the particle approach as there are FAR more bream and roach than Tony suggests and they are impossible to feed off. Margins at night time are worth a bash aswell, i had a surprise 9lb tench last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Just go and fish there as you would any other Carp water, watch the water, and move onto fish if you can, or where you percieve them to be moving to? Use Baits and rigs that you are confident with. Â Good luck, and post the pic's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 cheers lads ye will defo post the pics if i get a few on the bank.. any parts of the lake youd recomend or like you said just jump onto the fish. . think am just going to feed boilies in just give them with a few free offerings . have you fished the water befor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Yeah few times, never had a carp. Had everything else in abundance including several large (1lb+) Roach on zigs believe it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 no ??? are you a particle man then ?? dont recon a roach would even move my line lol lol . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 cheers lads ye will defo post the pics if i get a few on the bank.. any parts of the lake youd recomend or like you said just jump onto the fish. . think am just going to feed boilies in just give them with a few free offerings . have you fished the water befor ? Â No never fished there, and never will, But I'm a Carp angler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggs007 Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 i have fished it before and it's a lovely lake as for spoding i was also told this was a no no,after sitting for 48hours without a bleeb and wondering what we had done wrong over breakfast and a brew,a lad turned up set up and started spodding at least 30-40 spods and then every 20mins for the next 2 hours after this his rod went and he landed a 42lb carp so not sure advice on spodding i was also given is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 question is tho did you land a fish in the end ?? i duno am not a fan of big beds of baits i likesmall and cotrolled if you get me . . . just got have a ago aint you !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops_northants Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 i love that....... Fish singles none sense, me and my mate walked around one day recently and spoke to every angler, every one of them were using singles and guess what, not one of them had had a fish. Â plenty of big fish in there and like most things that are big, they need a good amount of food. Just has to be the right sort. Think outside the box and give them something different and reap the rewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops_northants Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I would also say that just putting a handfull of boilies per rod will do you no favours, think how easy that is to do and how many anglers would do exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 think am going to go with the boilie approach but give them plenty of freebies. . 30 or so at a time tbh a week around a lake is got to be betta than a week at work fish or no fish ha ha . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggs007 Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 yes a bad day fishing allways beats a good day at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 i love that....... Fish singles none sense, me and my mate walked around one day recently and spoke to every angler, every one of them were using singles and guess what, not one of them had had a fish. Â You really believe that they all told you the truth? And kingy will blank for days before a fish so... I know what you mean coops but singles to start with is a good bet for first time on any water until you get a grip, kingy is not for the faint hearted, im sure you know that. Â Good luck anyway mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Have you fished any of the other lakes or is it straight on kingy?  Are you only doing one night coz you say the 25th?  I'll asume the above is right and therefore you need to pick your place carefully - if you can get a decent area like half way along any bank then take it. If not a quiet corner might be a winner! Some pegs are pretty prolific but people catch all over - dont ignore the margins either!  You wanna get there early just to watch the water if poss - any show should tell you whether they are at the back of the wind or opposite and so take it from there.  I like to put about 30 - 90 baits (few spods) out in say a 5yd area and fish 2 rods on that - on the edges, then a 3rd rod on a small pva bag only.  If I was staying longer then I would top up the bait every evening if I was confident that they had had some - then again the small bream have become a bloody nightmare - so you might not have any bait in the spot anyway!  At the end of the day fish well, try hard and enjoy it! Speak to people who seem to know what they are doing - but dont push for info, be cool and people will often open up and give up some info.  My mate has caught absolutely loads of fish, usually on just tiny pvas - me I like a small spread of baits - do your own thing, get some quality bait - get that wrong you might as well give up before you've started.  Keep it simple - forget your (insert whatever stupid named rig you wanna), simple bottom bait, simple rig, putty, heavy flat leads - for good hooking, sharp strong hooks, anti tangle rigs. Keep your line down!  Do the basics well and have confidence - look for fish and dont be lazy - 10 mins in the right place and all that!  Tight lines! and good old luck Enjoy  I'm probably not going till sept/oct. not that it isnt a good time of year though - just a long wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 yea doing a week on there mate . . going down saturday to watch the lake all day then start fishing sunday afternoon so gives me a good time to watch the water !!! yea i always like the margins ill enjoy it no matter what ha ha but any fish ill poast a few picz ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 A week is a good amount of time to sit over bait and also gives you time to work things out, you should do well. Hope you bag one of those 30+ commons at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggs007 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 yes good luck good attitude to have with enjoying no matter what because i spoke to one person with a season ticket for the complex an he had had 4 fish in 8months fishing kingfisher 3nights a week but all over 30 so good hunting hope to see some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 i spoke to one person with a season ticket for the complex an he had had 4 fish in 8months fishing kingfisher 3nights a week  Thats poor! - not going to be top rod is he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thats actually a good average. Back in the late 90s early 00 when they started testing one of the NASH baits so much was put it the surplus was floating in the margins The lads on the baiting team hammered the place, totally. I know Lee Birch had about that many every session Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thats actually a good average. Back in the late 90s early 00 when they started testing one of the NASH baits so much was put it the surplus was floating in the margins The lads on the baiting team hammered the place, totally. I know Lee Birch had about that many every session  Think you've misread - what the guy put. (4 fish in approx 96 nights thats 3 nights per week 4 weeks a month, for 8 months) - still think its a good average? Thought not! - like I said its poor.  Average would be about 1 fish every 24 nights at that rate - now the fishing aint that difficult. A member had 3 out in his first night opposite me last autumn 2 x 30's and a 40 (only one appeared in the catch list - crafty!) - surely you should be looking at 15 odd fish a year as being OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
138cgj Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Not when i actually read it properly, its not good, especially for a ticket holder spending that much time at the place. Id be expecting at least a fish every other session really, from april-Nov anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpbraderz Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 well lads no one can make them fish bite can they ha ha . . just go with what i trust atleast ill be feeling confident if nothing else . . . but ye ill post the picz if there is any ha ha looking forward to it all anyway !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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