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Free turning of the line has never EVER entered my head mate and thats the truth . What a numpty Call myself a carp angler too They say some people think too much well here you have someone who doesnt think at ALL ...

As milky says , more pro's than cons i reckon. I cant imagine how i'd stop the lead slipping down to the hook without one tbh

Solar did do the http://www.solartackle.co.uk/products/rig-gear?ptitle=bullet-buffer-beads_159 to fit their gear, but rubber tulip beads also work: http://www.tacklebox.co.uk/terminal-tackle/beads/anchor-rubber-tulip-beads.html I found that occasionally all of the tubing pulls out of the beads (hence part of my choice for going naked, but these beads seem to work best and take most tubing. I suppose it is possible to safely glue the tubing into the bead, (the run ring will ensure the lead is able to come off, and in the event of a mainline snap it usually goes at the hooklink swivel) but then the tubing after a while will possibly crack at the bead. What nigel suggested will sort the tubing out dunno why i didnt think of that doh !...cos i dont do tubing i spose but do you know the problem i find with some of these buffer beads is that the hooklink swivels fit into 'em a little TOO snugly . And we know what happens then

Yeah moorsey knows what he's talking about . Actually ive only just started using the run rings myself , up until recently i used to just run the lead up the line using the leads swivel but i thought the run rings might run a bit smoother and mean the fish might not feel as much resistance . Lo behold a new biggest carp first time out on a total screamer so i think they work Just to add a little bit to your thread mr adds , i've never seen em mentioned on here but gardner , fox and solar all sell running lead clips which can turn a semi-fixed set up into a running rig (and vice versa) in about 2 seconds and they are very very good indeed .

I dont use tubing or leaders of any description so i admit im having difficulty trying to visualise your probkem adds , however since i always use running set ups myself am i right in saying that by buffer bead you mean the thingy thing that stops the lead running down to the hooklink ? Most tackle firms , i believe anyway , do complete running set ups so i would imagine that their rig tubing fits their terminal tackle ? Ie solar rig tube =solar buffer beads . Then again i might be talking utter rubbish . As a sidenote , why would a club insist on tubing ? Or am i going to get that old chestnut about mainline damaging the fish's flanks ? Just a thought but i wonder if the gardner beads might do the trick ? They have a tapered bore so providing the rig tubing was cut to a point , it MIGHT fit nicely into the bead ?

Well if it works as well in practice as jm SAYS it does , bearing in mind he's waving em about in mid air and NOT in underwater conditions then a light lead should be fine . I'm a bit sceptical about it tbh , i would have thought the principle of "the fish moving the lead to prick the fish " would work better with heavier leads . Then of course there is the age old question of whether the carp use the weight of the lead to eject the rig ? No such doubts (imho) with running set ups ...

I go along with what milky says mate although i tend to use running rigs/leads only . Just think indication is so much better . Re inlines , take a look at joe morgan's inline set up/explanation on you tube . Good article & plenty of food for thought.

Yeah i still use em where practical matey

Thats what i do mr adders . Shrink tube over the top of the join will keep it in place ...

Ssshhhhhh ! ....so do i

Yeah mate . PROPER fishing

Thats what i was after nige , i too cant find YOUR original thread but it was the pics and chod bead comments i was after so happy days cheers

Yeah mate you could be right though it wasnt apparent at the time . I've been looking for your choddy set up thread but i cant find it . Know the one i mean ?

Yeah nige i remember that thread . Quite a good one too though i also remember being a bit unhappy at the time because i thought the opening post was a little demeaning towards newbies/inexperienced carpers that were asking "idiotic" questions etc . We all had to start somewhere and if you dont ask then it cant be explained to you . Nick , korda sinkers Always open to any bits that will improve the rig/set up though .

Right ok i got it now . A "chod bead" is supposedly to fix (in avid's case) or semi-fix the actual hooklength to your mainline/leader/tubing and what nick is saying is that one of these in your set up minimises the risk of a cut off due to abrasion from gravel or snaggy bottoms kinda thing ? I've been fishing my chods (sorry nick) naked , so to speak , for a long time now ever since i saw tom dove using it a few years back using 4mm rubber beads semi fixed to those little korda stop thingys (the name of which escapes me in conjunction with one of those large eye swivels so that the rig can move freely up & down the line . Never had a problem yet but its got me thinking now ... Like the look of those weighted avid beads . Anyone use em ? Would using these do away with the need for me to put putty on the swivel ? Or is there no real need for it ? You got that reply in just as i was writing this mate

Thanks dal mate

Wholeheartedly agree . The gardner chod rigs are equally fine . Anyone got a pic or link to one of these chod beads though ?

Nick , is that the reason why most chod rigs are constructed with one of those swivels that have one huge ring and one little ring ? Allowing for more freedom of movement and therefore less abrasion ? Being honest , i dont think i even know what one of these chod beads looks like ...

Rig im fishing with as i post this There's a size 8 swivel just out the picture . Iq2 with a very small bit of supernatural at the hookend including the hair which has a snowman presentation or a weighted down pop up on it .note the ridiculously angled shrink tube on the wide gape. Fishing in silt at the moment and its worked well for me recently.[list=]

I'll probably get shouted down for saying this but i dont think that fishing pop up in a solid bag is the way to go. Imo (and there will be differing ones) a short 3 or 4 inch supple braided rig with a wafter OR pop up , with a shot to balance it on the deck, on the hair. To me , a pop up hovering above the freebies sticks out like a sore thumb . Depends on competition for food and how the fish feed i spose but i'd be wanting me hookbait to blend in with the bags freebies ? But thats just me . Welcome to the forum by the way .

right first time john boy ...

I'll add mine in the morning when its daylight . Its a bit chilly here tonight and i have a date with two pot noodles , a cup-a-soup and mike wilmott's carp life

Look on the bright side . The only thing of more interest was the rig with the rubber gentle

Cheers biggears Problem solved . I've been using the smilies on my iPhone instead of the forum ones . Now i know why people get the ump with me and think i'm serious

Ahhhhhhh gotcha . How bout this ?