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I don't think thats true myself mate, I think the fish will eat what it wants to eat, maybe the boilie first, maybe the corn Although the original idea of the rig was to 'clutter' the fish's mouth so the rig is harder to eject. Thanks for the praise though

Thinking about it, it might be better to have the boilie on the bottom, and the smaller bait on the loop of the 'D', as the bigger bait willl obviously have more 'pull', as the fish sucks on it, so the bait and rig would go into the fishes mouth boilie-first.

Thats a fair point, I might move the silicon further back down the shank to try and avoid this

OK, been playing around with rigs again, and thought about this, the hair is pulled through the silicon on the shank, giving it a D-rig style effect, so the fish can blow the bait back, plus the extra bait would give the fish something extra to deal with. I imagine it would also work with a boilie as the second bait. This may have already been published somewhere, and if so, tell me, but I assure you thats not where I got it from. It turns quickly when you drag it across your hand, so it all seems good to me. I was trying to decide though whether it would be more effective with a pop-up or bottom bait? Any opinions? The hooklink material is Sufix 15lb black silt, the hook is an ESP raptor D-7, and I used a Korda micro rig ring on the shank

Just a quick tip, if you get a few different colours of anti-tangle tubing, and then cut them up into 1-2 inch pieces, then thread these one by one onto your mainline, alternating coulours, it really breaks up the outline of your end tackle on the deck, and makes the tubing a lot more supple, so it won't stick up over bars etc

No wonder I didn't catch!

Nope... Just rang the owner of the lake and the access road is under 4ft of water, it runs beside a river under a road bridge you see The first picture is actually from the lake I was going to for some stalking, I'm after the twenty common that was mouthing at my floater last summer Wait, would have worded that more carefully!

What, no pic? Of the fish, or the rig? the fish Here you go... 10lb1oz 9lb6oz And the rig Sorry about the bad quality, they were on film and the scanner is still on the blink There's only two pictures because I stupidly didn't take the camera for the third fish, wish I had though as it was my first ever fish from a river, a 14lb common

What, no pic? Of the fish, or the rig?

I am slightly in love with my new(ish) bottom bait rig, haven't lost a fish since I started using it, and every one of the three fish has been hooked square in the bottom lip

Silt rig, its called a SILT RIG I was expecting that from Nick!

Apart from the 2 posts yesterday Just to clarify, make sure everyone knows!

Nice one Jesue. Oh and... Don't crimp fluorocarbon, its likely to shatter. I don't think it says that anywhere on that site

I wouldn't do that for Fluoro, due to the molecular structue of it, putting pressure such as crimping on it may cause it to shatter.

Yeah I know, I saw an advert describing Fox end tackle as 'reliable'!

I think its an Allbright special knot

I dunno, you've bought it! Surely you'ds check it out before buying it?

A wide gape rater than Longshank for pop-ups seems better for me, I've found the fish tend to snatch at the bait, so a hook with a larger gape seems more likely to catch in the mouth.

That reminds me... Someone posted a picture with lots of different hookpoints at an extreme close up pic, so you could see which was the sharpest, does anyone still have it? I've done a search but I couldn't find it anywhere? Cheers

That hook doesn't look too sharp!

Don't mention it

You tie it onto the rig ring using either dental floss around the bait or a seperate hair made from braid or mono looped to the ring

Yours was a bit more detailed. And better

Tie your normal knotless knot but don't knot the loop at the end, instead put the tag end back through the eye of the hook and blob the end with a lighter. BTW, put a rig ring in the loop before you blob it Tie the baits onto this and you're ready to go!

What knots does everyone tend to use for attatching leaders? I usually use the leader knot, can't find the proper name, but you make a loop, put the other line through, whip up the line 5 times, then back down, back through the eye and tighten