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Lol yep pretty much mate. I catch most of my fish from margins and always love the heart in mouth feeling I get knowing I'm attached to a nice double on such a small tc. I fish another Fishery on a regular basis and he loves watching me fighting against his fish with such light tackle. I will try and find a photo off my cloud drive of at least 1 of the fish I have landed on said rods from the margins.

Ahh that old chestnut won’t catch nothing in the margins mate..

Hey Commonly, I know exactly what you mean about playing lumps on such small tc's the feeling is almost to great for words. He never said I couldn't use them but claimed I would be massively under gunned. I'm predominantly a margin angler for carp using small inline leads or feeders usually ranging from 10g - 19g as I only drop the line directly onto the chosen location and walk it back to my rest so don't need to cast and when I do cast it's usually just off the marginal shelf. So with that said a massive 12ft rods make no sense for my style of angling. Personally speaking I think chucking large leads for miles is A, over rated unless fishing a large open water and B, more likely to spook the very fish you are targeting out of the swim all together. Again this is just my opinion. Hey Framey, lol I think he'd have been okay with any of those options to be fair 😂. I did tell him I would gladly do a 24hr session using just my 10 - 30g 7ft Spinning rod if he wanted lol. No mate he never asked us to leave as we had paid to fish his "Intermediate" lake and he was happy to let me fish that using said rods this lake containing an upper 20 and a large head of good high teens and was supposed to be a hard lake to fish. He was almost lost for words when me and my brother told him we had landed 9 high teens, lost 4 and landed to under 10. Like I said above he is willing to let me fish it using said rods "just" but claims I need massive lead chucker's to fish it properly?

What would he have said if you used 12 foot 2lb would that be ok or an 8foot 3.5 lb lol what about a 13 ft float rod... did he ask you to leave?

Or if you don’t care about the front find a v1 lol

You need the V2 brolly. Cheapest of the lot. Then you can buy the optional front for it 👍