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Vic, I used to use the arma points exclusively and never thought I would change. I then tried the esp cryogen range and they are special mate. Now the edges range has taken over from the armas, I'm glad I was given the nod on them just before release!!

I think its key to use what you like using and stick with it Never forget that there are endless little alterations you can make with your choice of hook regarding the hook size, bait size, rig length, hair length etc. I used to tie ultra neat rigs all the same length thinking they were ''the one'', but that isn't the way forward as all you are doing is teaching the carp which bait has a line stuck in it!

trying to offload then on to me. From what I saw they were sharp from the pack and looked strong. I just like a big curve shank for bottom/balanced baits on the multi rig. The atomic size 5s are still pretty small. Have caught on them though, and had no drop off at all but it's just a confidence thing when I head back to harder waters with bigger fish. If you weren't impressed then I will steer clear. Always looking for alternatives now fox hooks are as soft as butter.

4's and 6's for me. Standard.

size 4 all the time. Normally with a 15/16mm pop up. Hook more fish, land more fish. Even when surface fishing my bread crust has a big size 4 in it. This winter I am toying with the idea of dropping to 6s with 12mm pop ups though...

95% of the time I'm using a size 4. Might go down to a 6 if using a pop up. There's so much silt on the bottom of the lake, I very much doubt they can make them out.

I quite like them, used to use them a lot, must keep an eye on their stuff, they are a clever bunch.. ESP just suit the way I like to fish and the lakes I fish a bit more if that makes any sense lol