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Hi Neal and Spr I use Polaris Floats more than I ledger for exactly the reasons you describe Neal . One problem I get is that when the float goes under it all happens fairly quickly with little , if any prior warning . I know it sounds nuts , but I use a Bite Alarm to give me an audible warning just in case I am not gazing intently at my float ! . It's a shame the 19th is a Saturday , I have to work Saturdays , but hopefully you and Spr will meet up . So how did an agnostic and a church goer get together , and don't the congregation object to a smelly , unshaven fisherman loitering in their kitchen ? .

Spr sounds like a plan, I'll pm you my mobile and make sure I pack an extra chair and a mug