richard27 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 I am going to be using a D Rig for the first time and was wondering if anyone can help with regards to how long to have the hooklink? and also what lead setup is it best to be used with? Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 whatever you like. i use the 'd' ring set up on my pop ups only. my hooklink is either bristle filament or ghost fluro by ESP. i fish it between 6-8'' finged stifflink style. leadwise, you can use an inline or pendant style, your preference. why have you chosen this rig over a simple hair rig? Quote
richard27 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Posted August 20, 2008 cheers for the advice. I choose this rig as heard alot and read alot about it and thought it would work better that a simple hair rig for pop ups. I am fishing Linear in the next couple of weeks and have been told that pop ups work well there, I have in the past used a hair rig and striped some of the coating back with just a shot above the hook but have never caught using it so have not got alot of confidence in it Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 my advice is not to overcomplicate matters, my pop up rig on rods are simple silkworm hooklinks with putty to sink it. just stick with what your confident with mate, that will make life easier. concentrate on locating the fish and presenting a bait to them. use what YOU have confidence in. the D rig is good yeah, look at the pellet rig thread and there is a drawing of one, (swimmer rig) just go with what you know! Quote
nigewoodcock Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 cheers for the advice.I choose this rig as heard alot and read alot about it and thought it would work better that a simple hair rig for pop ups. I am fishing Linear in the next couple of weeks and have been told that pop ups work well there, I have in the past used a hair rig and striped some of the coating back with just a shot above the hook but have never caught using it so have not got alot of confidence in it Was the reason you didn't catch the actual rig or could it have been the bait or even that there was no carp in the area Quote
richard27 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Posted August 20, 2008 Thanks mate I will take a look at that. I do like to keep my rigs as simple as possible myself when fishing on the bottom but as I have never really explored pop ups too much in the past I thought this rig might be a good one to go with. Hopefully whatever I decide it puts em on the bank! Cheers for your advice Quote
richard27 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Posted August 20, 2008 I take on board what your saying maybe I should stick with it before changing to a different rig set up like you say it could of been the bait or even that the fish just were not there to take it Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 you need to start with what you know to begin with, once your there, you can speak to the baillif for advice, see what the other sucessful anglers are doing and follow suit. but remember, your rigs work everywhere else? so why be in a rush to change? Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 you need to start with what you know to begin with, once your there, you can speak to the baillif for advice, see what the other sucessful anglers are doing and follow suit. but remember, your rigs work everywhere else? so why be in a rush to change? That makes sense to me! If you do decide that you need a D-rig, there is a pic in the Rig Tying Sticky: https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=22185 Probably tied with a Coated Braid and I think from memory I have weighted it down with Wire around the hooklink. If you basic Pop-up rigs are working then stik with them. The most basic Pop-up rig is a Hair attached to a hook ( ) with a loop at the end. If you are happy piercing the pop-ups then this still works, if you prefer to tie the bait on (as I do, ) then a Uni Knot at the hook end of the hooklink material to create a loop, stick a pop-up in the loop and pull tight. Then attach the hook Knotless knot style. You can use whatever hooklength material you are comfortable with. Just use a power gum stop knot to attach any putty to to get your pop-up height (I prefer using power gum to having a shot on the line in case the shot weakens it), or even attach the putty round the Hookeye. Quote
richard27 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Posted August 21, 2008 I think after your comments I will stick with my usual setup for now but may tie one up just to compare it to my usual rig see if it makes a difference thats if I am on the fish anyway!! Thanks for the link as well I will take a look at that. Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 21, 2008 Report Posted August 21, 2008 hope it hleps pal, as the old adage goes, if it aint broke dont fix it! Quote
richard27 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Posted August 21, 2008 Yeah I agree Heres hoping I have a good session Quote
tcbuk Posted August 21, 2008 Report Posted August 21, 2008 Not for the first time, I see "I only use D-Rigs for my pop ups". Any reason why you would not use them for bottom baits ? Quote
nigewoodcock Posted August 21, 2008 Report Posted August 21, 2008 I use a D rig for my pop-ups if they need to be more than 1 1/2 inches off the deck. Anything that is popped up lower than that, I use a rig that is similar to the 'KD' rig that all the Korda boys keep plugging. The reason for this is so the hook is either flat on the lakebed or hovering neatly under the bait with the point clear. I don't want the point of the hook bouncing around on the lakebed especially if fishing over gravel. The reason I don’t use a D rig for a bottom bait is mainly due to the fact that my simple knotless knot rig (no shrink tube or aligner as I use a curved hook ) works perfectly fine. If I did feel the need to change over then I feel there are better rigs for presenting a bottom bait than a D rig. Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 21, 2008 Report Posted August 21, 2008 same here, i dont feel in need to change my rig from a simple knotless knot presentation, it works perfectly for me. i could quite happily fish all season and not even think about the D rig. Quote
willi4692 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 on a d rig is there any need for putty or split shot? I am asking because i just watched on the total carp website John Bones tying his d rig and he usually mentions where he puts shots or putty but this time he doesnt. Also is using a d rig on a chod rig good i saw something like it by nick helleur just trying to clarify. Quote
nigewoodcock Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 on a d rig is there any need for putty or split shot? I am asking because i just watched on the total carp website John Bones tying his d rig and he usually mentions where he puts shots or putty but this time he doesnt. Also is using a d rig on a chod rig good i saw something like it by nick helleur just trying to clarify. All depends on how buoyant the hook bait is. The more buoyant the more likely the need for a counter weight, be that a split shot or putty etc. If using the silt rig then you wouldn't have any need to put a shot on the hook link Quote
ouchthathurt Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 when using a D rig for my pop ups, then yeah, i'll use putty to counteract it, set at the height i want. Quote
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