pop ups versus weight.

[msdt]

Hi all. Just a quick simple question. How bouyant are pop up boilies (say 15mm) compeared to how much weight is needed to keep them on the bottom. Would a single swan shot do the job or would i need more than that.

 

Cheers, Mark

[snobber]

I wrap an inch or so of lead wire around the line just below the hook then mould tungsten putty till the weight sits on the bottom and the bait floats above it!

[carperp1]

I would imagine a single swan shot would be enough......But, surely you do this sort of thing at the lake when you get there set up and just test it in the margins.

 

[salokcinnodrog]

Depends on how you want your pop-up as well, so Carperp1's point about testing in the margins is spot on.

 

Sometimes I want the Pop-up nailed to the Lakebed, or at whatever distance I want to fish it, so it is over-weighted. Yet at other times I want a bait that is able to be sucked in more easily with minimum weight (critically balanced)

 

Because of the different types of presentation, if I want an "in 'yer face" I have a Combi-rig set-up, normally about 5cms above the bottom, if I want a bait that is only just above the bottom I use a standard rig, but thread on an olivette when I make them, or get the olivettes that are held on with a piece of silicone at either end if I want to change with the standard rig I have on.

 

I don't like putting shot on the hooklink, I worry that squeezing the shot on will damage the hooklink.

For Pop-up weights I tend to use Olivettes if I fish them on a standard rig, and add putty to add extra weight if they are underweighted, or put putty around a stop knot.

 

If I use a Combi-rig, Braid to a length of Amnesia or other stiff boom section, then its putty over the knot.

[snobber]

I would imagine a single swan shot would be enough......But, surely you do this sort of thing at the lake when you get there set up and just test it in the margins.

 

 

If you want to critically balance youe hook bait a single swan shot might be too heavy!

[msdt]

I'm very new to carp fishing so all the technical jargon is a bit above me at the moment.

 

Most of the places i have been to look at have deep margins which would be difficult to see your rig let alone judge how it is sitting on the bottom. I guess a good way would be to test a rig in the sink at home. Thanks for you replys .

 

Mark

[stoogi]

I'm very new to carp fishing so all the technical jargon is a bit above me at the moment.

 

Most of the places i have been to look at have deep margins which would be difficult to see your rig let alone judge how it is sitting on the bottom. I guess a good way would be to test a rig in the sink at home. Thanks for you replys .

 

Mark

 

I assume you take a bucket of some sort with you, then fill with lake/river water? To keep any fish wet whilst on the mat

 

Drop your rig in there

[nigewoodcock]

I ran out of putty yesterday whilst out and I only had a dispenser of shot to balance the bait.

I also don’t like the idea of a shot on the link (although have done it in the past). A bit of improvisation and a stop knot was tied onto the link with the shot squeezed onto one of the tag ends tight to the link. I then trimmed the tag ends down and coloured in the visible knot.

 

I must admit though that I have been playing around with my fake corn rigs and really like having the hair coming off the top of the shank with a shot placed on the hair at desired height. This allows the hook to still sit flat to the bottom whilst using a popped up bait. I saw it being used on what I think was Thinking Tackle 2 on Sky Sports early on in the year. It was the only rig that caught out of 5 runs this weekend, the others being more traditional pop-up rigs. I know that there would have been more variables but I think I have a presentation that I will be happy using on the new water.