Shimano Technium 14000 XTB's paired with Harrison Telos 3lb rods

[LC1975]

Hi,

I've ordered some new Harrison Telos 10ft, 3lb rods.

I fish exclusively with braid on my syndicate, the butt rings for the new rods are 50mm so it shouldn't frap.

The rod will be on the pod most of the time, except for casting and playing fish. 

I did see a video with Matthew Collins where he says big reels are good on short rods, however i'm not sure if my MGS would be overkill?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1009833238059372

My current reels are the newest version by Shimano and weigh roughly the same as some other smaller big pit reels.

https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/shimano-aero-technium-mgs-xtd-reel?itemId=99245&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20817704584&gbraid=0AAAAAD_NdB59VxiRgpQ9v1mVJxNU34KzX&gclid=CjwKCAjw0LzWBhBOEiwAKQd0cBExgg0HDJogvtnlybb3_o1_koo1c9LGRLylfIeL7W4w7yVd34vDzxoCUZwQAvD_BwE

I don't want to buy a new set of reels for these rods if I don't have to.

Cheers,

Luke

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by LC1975

[LC1975]

8 minutes ago, LC1975 said:

Hi,

I've ordered some new Harrison Telos 10ft, 3lb rods.

I fish exclusively with braid on my syndicate, the butt rings for the new rods are 50mm so it shouldn't frap.

The rod will be on the pod most of the time, except for casting and playing fish. 

I did see a video with Matthew Collins where he says big reels are good on short rods, however i'm not sure if my MGS would be overkill?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1009833238059372

My current reels are the newest version by Shimano and weigh roughly the same as some other smaller big pit reels.

https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/shimano-aero-technium-mgs-xtd-reel?itemId=99245&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20817704584&gbraid=0AAAAAD_NdB59VxiRgpQ9v1mVJxNU34KzX&gclid=CjwKCAjw0LzWBhBOEiwAKQd0cBExgg0HDJogvtnlybb3_o1_koo1c9LGRLylfIeL7W4w7yVd34vDzxoCUZwQAvD_BwE

I don't want to buy a new set of reels for these rods if I don't have to.

Cheers,

Luke

 

 

These are XTD's, not XTB as in the title of the post.

Thanks

[salokcinnodrog]

1 hour ago, LC1975 said:

These are XTD's, not XTB as in the title of the post.

Thanks

Fish with what suits you!

 

I have Shimano Beastmaster XTA 7000's on both my 12ft 3.25lb The Ones and my 12ft 2.75lb Sceptre's.

 

 

 

 

[yonny]

9 hours ago, LC1975 said:

i'm not sure if my MGS would be overkill?

Simple answer is, imo, yes.

I had a set of tournies (some of the smallest pit reels you can get) on my Harrison Stalkers, which I believe the Telos is basically a retractable version of, and even those wouldn't balance the rods. That said, your 50 mm butt rings will likely unbalance the rods anyway. Info on the Telos isn't easy to find, in fact I can't even see them on the Harrison site yet, but what I did find suggested the rods are primarily for stalking, boat fishing, and fishing in snaggy areas. It looks like you intend to use them as an all-rounder which is fine, but you're compromised straight away (for casting).

Having owned the Stalkers my advice would be to downsize everything...... reels (you want something like the SS2600), line diameter, and in particular the leads size. You'll find distance and accuracy will be improved with something like 2-2.5 Oz rather than the big 3-4 Oz leads many use nowadays.

9 hours ago, LC1975 said:

I've ordered some new Harrison Telos

If it's not too late, I'd cancel that order. As an all-rounder I'd not look past the Aviator or even the Torrix in 12ft.... unless there's a specific reason you want the short rods that you've not mentioned of course.

Either way, enjoy your new rods 👍

[LC1975]

Hi Yonny,

Thanks for the info,

 

I own a set of Aviators (12ft Flex). The rods were purchased because it's a proper hike fish to fish some of the best swims. (15 min walk with a barrow)

With smaller rods i'm hoping to get my kit there in one trip. I'm walking my rods there first and then returning with the barrow

 

It's a large estate lake that has a dam wall at one end a bottle necks. The top end is a long underhand chuck or a gentle overhead lob at best. I use 2oz leads exclusively for this.

I sold my SS2600's a few years back. 

 

With the above info would you still purchase some new smaller ones or save some cash and make do with what i've got? 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

[salokcinnodrog]

2 minutes ago, LC1975 said:

Hi Yonny,

Thanks for the info,

 

I own a set of Aviators (12ft Flex). The rods were purchased because it's a proper hike fish to fish some of the best swims. (15 min walk with a barrow)

With smaller rods i'm hoping to get my kit there in one trip. I'm walking my rods there first and then returning with the barrow

 

It's a large estate lake that has a dam wall at one end a bottle necks. The top end is a long underhand chuck or a gentle overhead lob at best. I use 2oz leads exclusively for this.

I sold my SS2600's a few years back. 

 

With the above info would you still purchase some new smaller ones or save some cash and make do with what i've got? 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

Big hike?

Not being funny, but a big water I'd stick with 12ft rods.

Ardleigh and Alton reservoir, 160 and 500 acres respectively, even Nazeing Meads Lagoons, around 65acres, could be some long walks to swims, and 12ft rods do give you better casting range.

Sounds simple, but co-ordinate your barrow and tackle you carry. Do the standard take out non essential stuff that 'I might need one day'.

I use a Carp Porter Porterlite (original), and I can take the gear for 3 days in one trip, and the 12ft rods and bivvy on top of the barrow.

[LC1975]

11 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said:

Fish with what suits you!

 

I have Shimano Beastmaster XTA 7000's on both my 12ft 3.25lb The Ones and my 12ft 2.75lb Sceptre's.

 

 

 

 

I'll probably do just that, save a few quid.

 

[yonny]

42 minutes ago, LC1975 said:

With the above info would you still purchase some new smaller ones or save some cash and make do with what i've got? 

Honestly, I'd be using your Aviators! But to answer your question, if you're prepared to spend whatever the Telos cost for this particular water/swim, then I'd absolutely be prepared to spend on downsizing the reels. There's a set of as-new SS2600s on FB Marketplace for 250 notes. Bargain. You could use them on this lake then sell them for 300 I bet. You'll probs save as much weight on the reels as you have on the rods too.

38 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

a big water I'd stick with 12ft rods.

Likewise. In fact I'd be taking the 13's.

As most on here know, I am completely anal about mobility when it comes to angling. All my tackle is chosen to enable me to get where I need to be quickly and easily. The trick is to reduce the size/weight of all the supporting kit... brolly, bed, sleeping bag, sticks, net, etc etc. I do not mess with the bits that put the bait in front of the carp. The way I see it I'd rather be fishing way over-gunned under the tips with 13s, than walk 2 miles to get on the fish and find I can't reach them.

I do love a short rod on a small water but the reality is I hardly fish small waters. There is a little 4 acre lake in the Valley I visit now and again but even on there I like to use a nice soft, slow-action set of 12s. It just makes everything so easy.

[salokcinnodrog]

26 minutes ago, yonny said:

There's a set of as-new SS2600s on FB Marketplace for 250 notes. Bargain. You could use them on this lake then sell them for 300 I bet. You'll probs save as much weight on the reels as you have on the rods too.

That's almost how I managed to pick up the second set of Beastmasters, although in my case it was Ebay.

Someone selling a set of 3 for around £50 each, when new they were £59.99. I knew that they were decent reels having used  them for years. 

Not that I am in a hurry to sell them, but I still wouldn't lose money if I did.

Possibly the best of the budget range Shimano reels, better than many more premium reels from them.