Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 And finally sitting upright on its own in a bowl of water. Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Big Common said: Nice one, but if you notice, Franks has part of the base swivel showing, I would think that allows the rig to twist round when approached from any direction, along with a small curve in the chod section. It's weird you putting your rig up mate, we were chatting about the FW rig a little while back somewhere else and trying to fathom it out..... The pic comes courtesy of a mate. Yes i just have not added a swivel as a cannot find a non quick clip one lol. One other issue i have sorted is the pop up always ending up behind to hook if you look closely the hooklink does have a slight curve to it and ive just been throwing it in the bowl from the other side of the kitchen like a right wierdo before i put the curve in the popup was landing everywhere after the curve was added the pop-up sits behind the hook everytime. The remaining issue is as stated the direction of the hook when taken side on ... my thorts are the hooklink is too stiff for the hook to go backwards for very long and when the boilie is sucked in it will ping back into place after the initial sucking in but this is just say so with no testing as such Thorts. Edited February 19, 2017 by DEANO30 B.C. 1 Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Big Common said: Don't forget, the bait will nearly always be sucked in from above, so the spring in the stiff material will help as it will be pulling downwards, that's what makes the chod, or hinged stiff rig so effective, IMO... As well as the weighted swivel pulling down enough to engage the hook point. After that it depends on how clever the fish is at getting rid, or how sharp your hook is so the tip of the point stays in long enough for the fish to bolt...... That's how I see it anyway. So my main issue is not really a big deal as stated the rig will nearly always get taken from above so as it sits its pretty much ready to be tested think i might give it a go just to see what happens. I have ordered some rig ring swivels that have size 11 rings on both ends of the swivel ... im gonna use a nash chod bead on the main line so by having the rig rings on both ends on the lower one that slides onto the chod bead im gonna mold putty around it the chod bead will still allow the rig to move up and down the line ... with the top also having a rig ring it will still give it that movement. When they turn up i will tie the whole rig up again. The thing that this rig has that fw dont is blow back just think back then blow back wasn't even a thing. Edited February 19, 2017 by DEANO30 Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 Also the beads im using are a little loose need smaller not sure what size im using 4mm i think ... any suggestions for a tighter fitting bead to fit snugley on iq2 ... the top bead cannot slide down the hooklink as if affects the popups ability to slide up the hooklink. Quote
cloud9 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 if they are rubber beads then make your own hole with a baiting needle dave B.C. 1 Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, cloud9 said: if they are rubber beads then make your own hole with a baiting needle dave Ahhh i never thort of that i only have pre drilled ones will add them to shopping list thanx dave Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 35 minutes ago, Big Common said: Try it out on a runs water when things warm up a bit, get an idea of hook holds........ Keep us posted bud. Will do be interesting to see what hook holds it brings ... will be keeping log of fish lost , fish banked aborted runs etc etc my pb is 27 fish in a row before i lost one that of course wasn't all in one session i wished lol. B.C. 1 Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Big Common said: Looking at it, not sure you need the bottom bead, doesn't look like it does anything.......... Unless I've missed something. the bait will hold itself up and doesn't need a buffer at the swivel end. A PVA nugget will help it stay put on the cast. The only reason i put a buffer bead at the bottom is because there will be a knot there tied to a swivel and the bait ring might get caught on it also on the cast the bait will be sitting there so a bead will just offer that bit of protection like you said probley not needed just piece of mind thing really. I could like you said also use foam. Quote
snowman01 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 I quite like the look of that mate, look forward to hearing how it goes in use. Sorry to be that guy, but please for the love of ocd could you spell thought with a ugh instead of r?! Cheers mate! Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Posted February 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, snowman01 said: I quite like the look of that mate, look forward to hearing how it goes in use. Sorry to be that guy, but please for the love of ocd could you spell thought with a ugh instead of r?! Cheers mate! I would if i didnt have dislexia mate. snowman01 1 Quote
cloud9 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 had a bit of a mess about today , with just using 10lb mono and a split shot to sink it , I was surprised to see that the rig will sit upright , the hook is just tied on with a blood knot and the whole lot pulled through a popup and pulled up so the knot just sits into the bait , it does wave around a bit , so by using a stiff hook length im sure that it would work for those fish that only mouth the bait rather than sucking the whole thing in , for those that are interested its a size 6 hook and a 15mm popup . Nutcracker 1 Quote
Nutcracker Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, cloud9 said: had a bit of a mess about today , with just using 10lb mono and a split shot to sink it , I was surprised to see that the rig will sit upright , the hook is just tied on with a blood knot and the whole lot pulled through a popup and pulled up so the knot just sits into the bait , it does wave around a bit , so by using a stiff hook length im sure that it would work for those fish that only mouth the bait rather than sucking the whole thing in , for those that are interested its a size 6 hook and a 15mm popup . I think drilling the boilie out abit so it can slide up and down the line would work better the rig can then twist and turn without the weight of the boilie being attached to it and as i said the stiff line allows the rig to sit upright nice work Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 Years ago Rod Hutchinson used the same idea, and had a number of fish hooked in the cheek. Quote
cloud9 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 4 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: Years ago Rod Hutchinson used the same idea, and had a number of fish hooked in the cheek. was that inside or outside ? im worried about hooking the fish outside the mouth . Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, cloud9 said: was that inside or outside ? im worried about hooking the fish outside the mouth . Outside. The rig pic is shown in his The Carp Strikes Back Quote
cloud9 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said: Outside. The rig pic is shown in his The Carp Strikes Back thanks thats that one off the list .... Quote
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