dizco Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 i recently bought a pack of long shank hooks with an in turned eye tied the hook up with my the rig i use exaxtly the same .....once ive been getting a take on the long shanks they are ejecting the hook im getting half screamers and then the rig is ejected resulting in a lost fish this has happend 3 times out of 4 takes ....went back to my normal pattern hook and caught the next take as i would expect ....why are the fish getting rid of the longshank hooks when my normal rigs are not ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garysj01 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Without seeing how the rig is tied and exactly how your presenting the bait, its impossible to tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizco Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 im just presenting the bait on a 6/7 inch esp braid with 1 tiger nut on over a bed of particles as i normaly do (boilies are banned on this club water ) everthing rig wise presentaion wise is the same ....only the hook is diff (long shank size 8 ) i normaly use a normal gape size 8 9no long shank) onlt diff is the fish are ejecting the long shank hook done my head in trying to work it out thats why i posted in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garysj01 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 do your normal hooks have a wider gape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizco Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 yeah pal thats what iwas thinking was the reason why they are getting away with it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garysj01 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 could be i had the same when i tried them out, so i just went for a curved shanked hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizco Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 well you only learn by tial and error i suppose but i as you am going back to normal curved cheers for your replys pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoogi Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Moved into the correct section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 i recently bought a pack of long shank hooks with an in turned eye tied the hook up with my the rig i use exaxtly the same .....once ive been getting a take on the long shanks they are ejecting the hook im getting half screamers and then the rig is ejected resulting in a lost fish this has happend 3 times out of 4 takes ....went back to my normal pattern hook and caught the next take as i would expect ....why are the fish getting rid of the longshank hooks when my normal rigs are not ??? You may need to consider something else as well. It may be a completely unlikely possibility, but of those 3 takes that you "lost", was it possible that a line trailer went over your line and gave you a run. Or even that you had fish going over your line and giving you proper liners, especially if you are fishing over particles. The 4th fish that you landed was a "proper" take. It may be a total coincidence that it happened, it could be genuine lost fish, but I've given you another idea or 2. As for the original rigs, is the normal rig with or without rig tubing? (As opposed to the longshank rig) Is the longshank rig using any tubing? Line aligners on either etc? What size fish are you catching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizco Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 both rigs used with shrink tubing ..both had line aligners .....when i was testing the long shanks out iwas margin fishing like i had been previously when using the other hooks on this water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 both rigs used with shrink tubing ..both had line aligners .....when i was testing the long shanks out iwas margin fishing like i had been previously when using the other hooks on this water Extending the length of the shank of a longshank with a piece of tubing may well be part of the cause then. Go back to the shorter shanked hooks (which seem to be working), and stick with them. It may even be that the longshanked hook can't be taken in, or "turned" in the mouth of a smaller fish. I honestly don't like longshanked hooks with smaller fish, I don't think they work at all well, and may be partly responsible for mouth damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizco Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 yeah they are not the biggest fish in the lake im fishing and came to the same conclusion in the end that the fishes mouths wasnt big enough ...gone back to my normal pattern now and i am catching again ..cheers for your replys fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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