zig rig

[tompie]

hi all .Iam wondering how to tie a zig for 20 feet of water.Any help at all will be good as ; keep geting tangled . Or is there anything out there i can buy 4 zig fishing.

[nash_gadgeteer]

Is has to be a adjustable zig for depths that deep..

 

Fox do one, and works very well...

[tompie]

thanks mate ill get one and give it ago its my first year trying zigs

[chinky]

I have to say that the fox adjustable zig kit is very good,been using it a lot lately and not had it tangle on me once.

[armandw]

Just for interested sake, why do does a person want to use a zig rig in 20 feet (6m) of water.

[dougmoon]

to present the bait at different depths

[armandw]

Hi dougmoon, I understand, but except for the depth variations, is there some grass that he needs to clear for example or some underwater material etc.

 

I tried a couple of times a Zig rig and found it to be better working in very deep water, at the margins or in obstructions such as grass.

 

At 6 meters I will rather use a choddi with a quick link ring swivel on a boom with a couple of predetermined hook links made up, bringing in my lead much closer to the tip of the rod but releasing the line quicker on the cast.

 

The last reason for my question. why would a person want to go to all this trouble and technicalities in 6 meters of water, if there is no obstructions, such as growth, mud etc.

 

My motto, keep it simple.

[dougmoon]

to fish a buoyant bait in the upper layers, close to the surface, to entice crusing fish.

[armandw]

will you do this close to the margins or at any place that indicates fish activity

[dougmoon]

wherever there is activity in the upper layers. if i can see them on or near the surface i will use a floating bait or a zig rig under the surface normally in the top 2 or 3 feet

[gidneyboy]

At 6 meters I will rather use a choddi with a quick link ring swivel on a boom with a couple of predetermined hook links made up, bringing in my lead much closer to the tip of the rod but releasing the line quicker on the cast.

 

Hate to tell you this armadaw but I am almost certain that fishing a pop up at that depth, within a couple of hours that pop up will not be popping up any more and will be lying hard on the deck.

A few years ago I did some experiments whilst diving a lake. I set various types of pop ups at various depths, down to around 15/16 feet and the results shocked me. At around 15 feet after 3 hours every pop up at that depth was sitting hard on the deck.So in 20 feet of water I would think you would be lucky to get 2 hours before that bait is sitting hard on the deck.

[stoogi]

At 6 meters I will rather use a choddi with a quick link ring swivel on a boom with a couple of predetermined hook links made up, bringing in my lead much closer to the tip of the rod but releasing the line quicker on the cast.

 

Hate to tell you this armadaw but I am almost certain that fishing a pop up at that depth, within a couple of hours that pop up will not be popping up any more and will be lying hard on the deck.

A few years ago I did some experiments whilst diving a lake. I set various types of pop ups at various depths, down to around 15/16 feet and the results shocked me. At around 15 feet after 3 hours every pop up at that depth was sitting hard on the deck.So in 20 feet of water I would think you would be lucky to get 2 hours before that bait is sitting hard on the deck.

 

Would a corkball pop up get around this problem?

[armandw]

Hey gidneyboy, I heard about the pop dropping in 6 meters of water to the deck but unfortunately did not dive to see for myself (I like being on top of the water). You are not the first person to give me this advice. Thanks, I made up my mind. I will stick with it only in grass or mud

[beanz]

Hi dougmoon, I understand, but except for the depth variations, is there some grass that he needs to clear for example or some underwater material etc.

 

I tried a couple of times a Zig rig and found it to be better working in very deep water, at the margins or in obstructions such as grass.

 

At 6 meters I will rather use a choddi with a quick link ring swivel on a boom with a couple of predetermined hook links made up, bringing in my lead much closer to the tip of the rod but releasing the line quicker on the cast.

 

The last reason for my question. why would a person want to go to all this trouble and technicalities in 6 meters of water, if there is no obstructions, such as growth, mud etc.

 

My motto, keep it simple.

 

this seems to contradict itself...........a zig is a simple rig really,it can be made complicated with sunken floats and bits, but used with a bolt and long length or just letting line out on a running set up is rather simple compared to a choddy

[armandw]

Hey beanz, it does seem to contradict itself. I understand what you are saying about a bolt set-up. What bothers me is, the following, when casting, what is the chance that the line might get stuck when hitting the bottom and the pop up might not be coming up at all, although drifting, but staying where it is, when releasing line.

 

When I take into consideration what gidneyboy said and a bolt rig system is used the lead will take it down to 6m and will not come up even when releasing line for it to do so or I am I wrong in this regard.

 

I tried casting with a long length, sometimes I get it right and sometimes not. In short I battle to get it right when using such a long hook link.

 

When I use a choddi I use a ringed swivel hook link, hook the lead at the end of the runner (20lb fluro) with a quick clip and put on the bead. For me I know what will happen when the lead hits the water, the hook link will slide as the lead is falling quicker than the pop-up can follow as it is behind the lead and will be stopped by the bead.

 

Then I ask myself again if a choddi oor a Zig is really that effective compared to other rigs for a person to go to all this trouble.

 

This is the reason that I am on this site, as I do need your guys advice to be one in front of my counterparts.

[beanz]

if you planned to fish 1m under the surface in 6m depth then on a long zig length and bolt rig ,and presuming the cast went well,then the pop up shouldnt get to the depth where the pressure will effect it. it should float on the surface until the lead reaches a depth where it can pull it under.

 

 

im not sure i follow you with the choddy comparison, in long grass( as you put it) the choddy would pull down to where the line settled( most likly hiden), a zig could be used to hold a bait above, just like float fishing but with a different line angle

[armandw]

Thanks Beanz, will put in file memory one.