Not competent.... What a load of rubbish!! I was told the day I looked at it the first time it is not an easy water... Which is a good thing as you know you have worked for your prize, as for not fishing/spooking fish..... You could always lead about and take notes in one swim bait it up then fish a different swim ie the shallows where you know some spots and then if you see signs in the other swim move....failing that you have gained info on another swim for next time. And I will happily share any info that I find out with you a) because I'm nice like that [emoji23] and b) because your a nice chap oh and c) because one of us if not both needs to show that infamous Bayswater carp do exist [emoji6]