Haven't found that I've needed to chuck very far on any of my club waters, lots of snaggy swims and swims with overhanging trees, ease of use with bait boat or bait pole in future, smaller pack down size for fitting in the car and barrowing round the lake to my swim. Still keeping my 12ft rods just in case, but they've felt a bit cumbersome in snaggy little swims I've fished recently.