banjojohn Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hi All , I cant find any info on google about tubing etc , If I have a size 8 swivel then what size in mm would I get in anti tangle tubing ? Also what size in Shrink tube ? Do I have to measure the width of the swivel ? Any help would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Can't help. I order and hope. Bank tackle anti tangle sleeves are fine on size 8 swivels. They do theirs in length. Shrink tubing normally measured for hooks sizes? Don't know why you'd shrink tube over a swivel though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, greekskii said: Can't help. I order and hope. Bank tackle anti tangle sleeves are fine on size 8 swivels. They do theirs in length. Shrink tubing normally measured for hooks sizes? Don't know why you'd shrink tube over a swivel though? Hi Greekskii , Thanks for the reply , I'll try Bank Tackle ... they seem a good store on ebay , I guess when thinking about it you wouldnt shrink tube the swivel , no idea why I thought that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 2.4 mm fits over barrels of swivels etc perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Handy for the Ronnie... Vic commonly, greekskii and banjojohn 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, chillfactor said: 2.4 mm fits over barrels of swivels etc perfectly. I'll look for that ... the reason I kinda got the swivel thing messed up is that on the lake I'm fishing you cant use bolt rigs and braid , and its very silty , so I was looking at using a light lead on a long mono length connected to a running bead , but without some kind of tubing on it ... its going to tangle , Thanks for the number , that will help a lot 13 minutes ago, chillfactor said: Handy for the Ronnie... Vic That looks very tidy ... are them line stops on the hook ? I have no idea what a ronnie is lol ( I've been away from carping for over 20 Years , ) Edited August 9, 2017 by banjojohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 sorry for the awful sketch , I was using a mouse to write and draw , it was just to show what I meant on the running rig I was going to do ... and I need tubing for the lead mono length and probably part of the hook length and just before it , theres probably a better way but havent found one yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 yes for the ronnie rigs, but normally you use a size 11 swivel, not 8, and standard shrink tube fits over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 It was size 8 that was mentioned Vic. Hi Banjojohn .... i would just go for inline or pendant running leads . No need for it to be on a length of line , got tangles written all over it & the lead will be working against you when playing the fish & depending on the length of your hooklink quite possibly bashing the fish . If you were to swap the lead & hooklengh positions that would be a helicopter rig . In my picture.... there called hook beads The Ronnie is a pop up rig & very easy to make . commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Many thanks all , Its an old method that I used Decades ago but it did tangle unless you carefully placed it out in the margins , I'm booked at the lake Tuesday and think I'll go for the inline , flat and about half ounce , with at least a foot hook link ( I'll feel comfortable with the silt that way , ) , Also ... can I fish a ronnie in silt ? , I never see it mentioned for that type of lake bed , Thanks so much again for all your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Actually ... how would ronnie work without braid , braid is banned on the lake so I can only use mono , My main line is 12lb gardner pro but do have other Mono's to use as hook link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 You can use it with a fluoro rig material, figure of 8 loop knot to create the hinge job done . So your lake bans braid as a hooklink material ...you sure its not just as mainline braid ? banjojohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, chillfactor said: You can use it with a fluoro rig material, figure of 8 loop knot to create the hinge job done . So your lake bans braid as a hooklink material ...you sure its not just as mainline braid ? I did query this and the owner said its both , He said it " saws " into there mouth , I tried explaining to him that nowadays braid is much better but he's having non of it , Hes retired and uses a pole so probably thinks that Todays braid is the same as it ever was , Also when you mention the figure of 8 loop rig ... do you mean like they do in a stiff hinge rig ? and thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 by the way ... will the floro act the same way as braid ? I feel the whole rig will lift up in a weird way ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 If you look at my pic above .... the putty is formed around a figure of 8 knot . I use a semi stiff coated braid ... You don't want anything to rigid , as you say your fishing silt but a semi stiff fluoro will be fine . Silt is pretty forgiving with rig choice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 hours ago, chillfactor said: If you look at my pic above .... the putty is formed around a figure of 8 knot . I use a semi stiff coated braid ... You don't want anything to rigid , as you say your fishing silt but a semi stiff fluoro will be fine . Silt is pretty forgiving with rig choice . Thanks Chill , I'm going to the tackle shop Today and have made a list of stuff I'll need with your Idea's I'll stick a picture up in the next 2 Days to show you the rig outcome , Thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hi , Well I made My first " Ronnie " ready for Tomorrow , will make more later but wanted to check if I did it right , have bait floss ready for boile too , My main concern was if the hook bead was at the right position , Many Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 If you cut the ring off the hook swivel your be looking good fella... micro swivels rather than micro ring swivels. You can play around with the bead position as this will change the angle of the hook sitting below the pop up , mount one on & your see what I mean , personally I like mine back slightly so it's more opposite the point . Just to add depending on your pop ups you might need just a little putty on the shrink tube so it sits right . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Or turn it round. Use the ring on the hook shank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Could do Vic, but I would like it closer ... I pull the micro swivel up into the bait. Also that diameter might actually pass over the bead looking at it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 True. I Normally use just a ring for my pop ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjojohn Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Many thanks guys , I did cut the ring off and it worked well , I didnt catch but it presented the boilie nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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