double hair

[muftyboy]

oi oi, was just wondering on peoples thoughts on using more than 1 hair on a rig, maybe 2 totally different baits or 1 bottom bait and 1 pop up, has anybody ever tried this and do you think it could have better hooking potential by making the rig harder to eject or have a negative effect

 

mufty

[salokcinnodrog]

Its a pig to cast having a pop-up on a shank/bend mounted hair, and an eye mounted hair bottom bait. I think its called the one up one down rig

 

I used to use it on a water where I could put the end tackle in by hand, and it did work.

 

It worked and hooked a few fish where I had missed some takes on a simple knotless knot rig, but I think it may have worked due to keeping the hook(point) clear of the weed

[muftyboy]

i was wondering about tangles but was thinking the use of pva could cure this.

i am thinking about ways of using 2 or even more different baits with lots of different attraction and food sources on 1 rig to create the upmost attraction, i did once use 2 different bottom baits cut in to discs then mounted on the hair with a high attract pop up which caught me a few fish, dont know why i stopped doing this

 

mufty

[dangling]

Don't you think that it will increase the chance of damaging a fish?

[muftyboy]

Don't you think that it will increase the chance of damaging a fish?

 

how? your only using a bit of extra bait not any more metal or hooks

[rosstheangler]

Is a snowman presentation not the same thing????

 

Sounds a little like over complicating things to me.

[muftyboy]

Is a snowman presentation not the same thing????

 

Sounds a little like over complicating things to me.

 

in theory it is mate but i was just trying to think of something different that might get you a couple of extra bites on them tough days.

with 2 hairs you could use a milk protien bait on one and a fishmeal on the other then bait up with both, then if the carp on that particular day have a preference for say the fishmeal over the milk then you may give yourself a better chance of catching.

the main concern for me is the presentation and hooking potentail of such a rig, perhaps a visit to a runs water with 1 rod on a convential snowman and 1 on the double hair is the way forward.

mufty

[rosstheangler]

Is a snowman presentation not the same thing????

 

Sounds a little like over complicating things to me.

 

in theory it is mate but i was just trying to think of something different that might get you a couple of extra bites on them tough days.

with 2 hairs you could use a milk protien bait on one and a fishmeal on the other then bait up with both, then if the carp on that particular day have a preference for say the fishmeal over the milk then you may give yourself a better chance of catching.

the main concern for me is the presentation and hooking potentail of such a rig, perhaps a visit to a runs water with 1 rod on a convential snowman and 1 on the double hair is the way forward.

mufty

 

Like your style mate, trial and error makes things interesting.

[welder]

Is a snowman presentation not the same thing????

 

Sounds a little like over complicating things to me.

 

in theory it is mate but i was just trying to think of something different that might get you a couple of extra bites on them tough days.

with 2 hairs you could use a milk protien bait on one and a fishmeal on the other then bait up with both, then if the carp on that particular day have a preference for say the fishmeal over the milk then you may give yourself a better chance of catching.

the main concern for me is the presentation and hooking potentail of such a rig, perhaps a visit to a runs water with 1 rod on a convential snowman and 1 on the double hair is the way forward.

mufty

 

Like your style mate, trial and error makes things interesting.

 

Agree. Without this sort of experimentation we'd still be back in the days where rods were twigs, cut from hedges.

 

Anything is worth a try, surely? Just as long as due consideration for our prey is paramount in our thinking.

 

Ian

[pearbo]

Im sure something like this is in Hutchie's book 'carp now and then'

[salokcinnodrog]

Is a snowman presentation not the same thing????

 

Sounds a little like over complicating things to me.

 

With a buoyant bait at the bend end (ooh er Mrs), attached to the shank or at the base of the bend, and a hair coming from the eye end, you can actually lift the hookpoint above the bottom rubbish, preventing the point being masked on a take.

 

Rod Hutchinson has been mentioned as having published it, but I know that Rob Maylin and Andy Little have both put it in publications, and maybe even Julian Cundiff has said something on those lines.

 

If I remember rightly, one of Hutchy's versions was of a couple of hairs with grains of hemp on them, used when fishing particles (hemp).

[matt859]

I have tried a double hair before. I tied a d rig set up with a rig ring then had a very short length of line going through the ring which had a loop at each end. One boilie sat on each loop. It didnt affect my catch rates as far as I was concerned.