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Just been and had a look at a mates XD set up on a club lake, I took my T1 Camo Pro and pegged it all out properly side by side … now feeling confident in the decision, there’s no real way to tell about the build quality, however in terms of the other points, regarding packdown size, superior peak height and door height on the T1, and that the extra height towards the back on the XD is practically useless… that all checks out, I’m absolutely certain that the T1 is the better bivvy - substantially. … there’s the packdown side by side - things to note from this picture is that the XD is still factory packed, inside the bag is also a factory packed vapour peak, infil panel, mozzy mesh, and groundsheet, but no inner dome. … the T1 Pro Camo has been unpacked from its factory packing, and packed away by me with the inner dome and infil panel still attached, (and a HD groundsheet which is not attached, but is inside the bag) … I’m assuming that the XD bag would be a lot bulkier if it and its addons were all unravelled from their factory packing and repacked by me, with addons attached. Just also noticed that I mistakenly wrote in title that was this XD Camo vs T1 Camo Pro, but the XD is not Camo, brain fart but not that it matters as the XD and XD Camo share technical specs.

I will be using both the groundsheet and inner dome on either, I have both accessories for both bivvies. It’s all very equal on those fronts. The edge goes to Nash because of the peak height and door height - which I personally prefer over the taller middle/back height of the Fox My hesitation comes from not fully understanding whether or not one is generally accepted as better quality than the other… However, I’ve decided on keeping the Nash this evening, and I’ve unravelled it from its original packaging to seal the deal, the Fox is going back… job done

Yep I got one through work recently, I work 50/50 home/office, and I told them - I objectively can not work from the office without a key, my brain/psyche is simply literally incapable of using a cubicle loo, I don’t have a diagnosis, but regardless - it exists, they gave me a key on the spot, and it fits all disabled loos 👍🏻

Game changer, as I wouldn’t dream of using a public loo. (unless I can access a disabled loo, that’s a top tip for general society btw, disabled loos are generally wayyyyy cleaner than regular, and my qualifying disability is that I’m too anxious to use a regular loo) … anyway back to the point, my flat pack loo is as integral to my bivvy as the frame itself, you couldn’t pay me a grand to go in a shared portaloo, no no no no no no NO, NO

Aye, very much aligned with that, the decision on this is just going to come down to which is the better build quality, which is known to hold up better over time, that sort of thing, still quite fuzzy from everything I’ve researched so figured I’d ask for more opinions on that front - as it stands I’m leaning Nash. The Daiwa Ninja 4pc rods are only on the continent at the moment, from what I can see they are fairly new, got mine from Fishernator and I think fishdeal are doing them as well, 13ft 3.50lb (and 12ft 3lb but I don’t fancy those), I matched them up with some 23 emblem 45 scw QD’s… good match … but obviously still not an ideal rod being at the lower end of specs a bit like the TX-lites, but until somebody makes some high end 4pc rods… have to make do with whatever is available. Good to bump into a fellow TX-Lite enjoyer, as a 4pc fanatic, they are my favourite rods of all time, I’m [censored]ed off that I didn’t buy 3 of every variant before Uttings got rid of all of theirs, there’s only scraps of stock left on them now, mostly 9fts and they’re all £160+, feels gross after Uttings were giving them away at £80odd a pop, but as they say you snooze you lose.

They both weight around the same, “stripped out”, the Nash weighs 12.5kg, the Fox weighs 12.6kg, then their like-for-like accessories (inner domes, groundsheets, overwraps) - are also similar in weight, give or take a kg in the end either way, there’s no significant difference between them. I refuse to use 12ft 2pc rods, it’s only thanks to Daiwa releasing the 4pc Ninja rods (13ft 3.50lb) in Europe that I was ship them in and get hold of some long range rods, before that my only carp rods have been Shimano TX-Lite (4pc, 10ft) … my chair is an Aeronium super lite (2.3kg) … bedchair cygnet grandsniper (8.4kg) … I have an original Aqua Atom Mk1 (3.5kg) the lightest and most compact bivvy ever made … I’m currently using a Sonik Xtractor Bivvy, similarly as light and compact as a Tempest Brolly and whatnot As it happens, I am literally Mr Lightweight, Mr Compact On a day session, nothing beats my West Lake Lc Day Shelter Pop up, I’ve had a Tempest 100 Brolly, I have an Atom, I’ve had the Fox Easy Shelter… for weight and packdown size combined with practicality, the West Lake Lc Day Shelter smokes everything… Recently I borrowed a Tempest RS 150, and it changed my whole perspective on bivvies specifically (for night fishing, not day shelters)… I used to obsess about packdown size and night fish with literally zero space in an Atom, but the Xtractor full system made me realise that a 120-160cm pack down size is “fine”, coming from an Atom which packed down to 78cm… (an additional 10kg give or take on the barrow is insignificant to me, it being a manageable / storable size was the most important) …the point is, when I did accept a bigger pack down size, especially after borrowing the RS 150, the comfort on the bank increased exponentially, far far far far outweighing the convenience of the likes of a Tempest 100 Brolly. I just don’t buy into the “brolly for a quick overnighter” cliche anymore, what’s a “quick overnighter”? It’s 24 hours… it’s not a variable it’s a constant… 24 hours on the bank is not “quick” under any circumstances, 24 hours is always 24 hours, and it’s always long, “sleeping in this crisp packet will do you for a quick overnighter”, marketing spiel. Let’s take setup for an example: A Tempest Brolly takes 2? minutes, weighs 10kg? All in A Titan Bivvy takes 7? minutes, weighs 17kg? All in Option A. - do I want to be cramped and hunched and less uncomfortable for 23hours 58minutes, and push 7kg less ? or Option B. - do I want to be liberated and spacious and more comfortable for 23hours and 53minutes, and push 7kg more? I used to be obsessed with Option A, but after borrowing that RS 150 system, I’ll never compromise on that comfort again… based on that I’ve ended up double ordering 2 of the most comfortable bivvies on the market, but like I said - I can only keep one.

I’ve got 2 brand new bivvies in the living room right now… Nash Titan T1 Camo Pro Fox Frontier XD Camo … both the latest and greatest versions from their respective brands … unfortunately I can only keep 1, and 1 has to go 😔 In any case, the HD groundsheet and Inner Dome will be used pretty much all of the time, but addons are not much of a decided factor here, the main deciding factor for me is… … the Nash is marginally wider by 6cm, significantly longer by 18cm - and it’s 3-0 to the Nash… because on height, 183cm at the peak, 158cm at the door, where as research tells me that the Fox 143cm at the door (despite being 165cm overall in height). I’ve seen it argued that the XD has more “useable” height, due to the steep slope of the Nash, the Nash has a higher peak and door, but the Fox maintains much more of its height towards the back… but then I’m thinking… is height above the bedchair really “useable”? As long as there’s head clearance when sitting on the bedchair, I can’t think of why more height above the bedchair is of any use… Pack down size is another slight edge for the Nash, and it just “looks better” to me as a personal preference. So that’s all of the context behind my thinking, but onto the most important thing that can only come from you - the people who know these 2 bivvies… quality, usability, reliability, the stuff which can not be assed on paper, because ultimately I want to keep the “best” one, they will both suit my needs excellently, so it really comes down to finding out which is actually the best when it comes down to quality/usability/reliability - which one is most worth it’s money? Cheers

25lb The only fish in a 40hour sesh

Visited the same venue today - Something to note is that I forgot to subtract my net weight on these carp until today, weighing my net today it was exactly 2lb (wet) - which means today's carp was 8lb, the 2 carp in the OP pictures are therefore 6lb'something and 7lb'something, so still no double from this venue yet. I'm going to a different venue tomorrow with the potential for some 20lb+ fish and also some big ghost carp known to be up 18lb.

I'd say "proper carp fishing", in the UK at least - implies static rigs on the bottom - boilies and size 6 or bigger hooks - 9 out of 10 times, 15lb+ mainline, rods on buzz bars with alarms / baitrunners, 42" landing nets, probably a bivvy, etc etc. "proper" is a poor choice of word, but it's also completely understood if you're not being pedantic - when you look at a "proper" carp angler on the bank, you instantly know exactly what he's doing, as opposed to an angler holding a float rod who could be doing anything of a number of things - you wouldn't really instantly know what flavour of fish he's targeting. "proper" wasn't a word to discredit other approaches - although I can definitely see why somebody might conclude that it is, like I said - poor choice of words, it was intended to imply the instantly identifiable approach to carp fishing.

100% correct on every word 👍

Exactly as I did! It absolutely is "one of those" ponds, I'm going to take a float on there soon - that's definitely the way to fish it, the stock has always been very response to luncheon meat for 20 years, a little cube under a float will catch fish after fish, I'm just too hooked on "getting runs" at the minute, I used to think watching a float go under was the most exciting way to fish, but hearing the delks warble and spool spin yesterday was something else - I regret that I've ignored "proper" carp fishing for so long!

I did as a kid 18 - 20 years ago, used to catch tench and perch on the smaller pond (there's 3, it's a local urban woodland), what makes you ask?

I've started with PVA solid bags with mixed carp pellets and crushed boilies, inside I'm putting in a hair rigged 15mm popup hookbait - on a very short (3cm - 5cm) 20lb coated braid hooklink, an inline lead size-appropriate for the water, connected to 15lb sensor mainline. Trapped a couple, 8 and 9quid respectively, the biggest in this tiny water is 11lb so it's not too bad! I'm off work all next week so spending this weekend assessing venues to target some bigger fish 😉

These are the Atom Plus groundsheets sadly. This is the one I'm likely to buy if I don't find a first-edition, and adapt/customise it somehow to make it work.

I've just managed to get my hands on an original Aqua Atom in like-new/used-once condition... The groundsheets are readily available for the Atom Plus (newer, slightly bigger version) - but I'm really struggling to find a source for the original Atom groundsheet. I've scoured the web to no avail, I've also reached out to Aqua Products and also Cipher spares - awaiting replies, but in the meantime, anybody have any ideas of where I might be able to find one? Cheers.

Some of my earliest memories are from when I must have been 4 - 5 - 6 years old... crammed into a Mk4 Escort, windows down with an Oasis cassette blasting through the speakers, buried under a metric ton of carp gear for hours on end on the way to spend what felt like an eternity - bored stiff - in a bivvy on the banks of one massive lake or another... repeatedly being told to "sit down" and "keep the noise down", confused... baffled... as to why my Dad seemed to actually enjoy it as I was just so excruciatingly bored. These days they are my most cherished childhood memories. I never did follow my old mans footsteps into carp angling, I must have by scarred by the experiences 😅 - but I was always an angler, I'm 30 now, but as a kid mainly mixed species float fishing in early days - as you do, but I do all sorts, in recent years my favourite flavour has mostly been Ultralight / BFS lure fishing, and bobber fishing on ultralight spinning tackle for Perch and Trout, importing Japanese Domestic Market tackle made of spider webs and magic that costs its weight in £20 notes. I've been mostly into deviating from the tried and tested, experimenting with new ideas that I'll think up for myself, my latest being importing a Kokanee Rod from the US, Eagle Claw 8' 100% fibreglass ultralight trolling rod (2lb - 8lb), and using that with a BFS reel (Bait Finesse System / a Japanese concept involving specially designed reels with feather-light spools and finely tuned brake systems made for casting ultralight <5g tackle on bastcasting gear), and using that stuff to trot jigs under a float for Brown Trout on rivers, US Steelhead style but scaled down to ultralight gear, good stuff. I've been around carp fishing all of my life, it's in my blood - I don't know why but I've just never had to urge to buy the gear and get behind a set of delks... until recently I started watching some youtube content from the likes of Alan Blair and Alfie Russell, and I was absolutely captivated by one of Alfie's fish... It looks like it lives in a volcano, of all the thousands of fish I've seen over the years, this one just had me absolutely gobsmacked, it came with a 40min film about his fishing and personal issues in recent years, and his quest for this particular fish, great watch... All of a sudden, out of the blue - it has taken many years, but I'm absolutely DESPERATE to get fishing for these majestic creatures. I'm building up my gear at the minute and getting ready for my first campaign come autumn, I do like doing things proper (in my own way) - I know what I like when it comes to gear, for me it's all about compact, lightweight, tidy and organised, no 12ft / 6ft rod sections, 700g 14000 reels for me, not my style... I'm definitely a 2 rod man, and the Shimano Tribal TX Lite 4pc rods looked like the were designed for specially for me, I love a bit of marketing spiel (4pc but 2pc action / you'd never know it was 4pc), drilled styling on the carbon woven reel seat, foam rings on each joint - nice touch, nice thin carpy handle on a forgiving 10ft 2.75lb progressive blank - I've got over 20 rods and usually always buy online, so it's always hit or miss when I get them out of the tube and wobble them around for the first time, and I must say - I'm OVER THE MOON with my pair of TX Lites, first impression shaking them around in the house... full to the brim with confidence in these rods, and the best bit? £180 each RRP? Nope, Uttings supplied a pair for £90 each on sale, couldn't be happier. Next was to be the net - Sonik Xtrator Recon, full 42 inch net, packed down to 30 inches (matching the length of my packed down TX Lites) thanks to telescopic net arms, I'll have some of that, got that brand new for under 50quid - it's going well so far. A few other bits I've gone with is a Korum Aeronium Supa Lite - lightest proper chair on the market at 2.3kg, I do have one of those 1kg camping chairs that go into a 30cm bag but they're unstable and uncomfortable. My Korum Aeronium clips onto a Korum transition Ruckbag (hard back version) for all the bits, another fantastic bit of kit I'm feeling happy with. Pod - I've bought a New Direction Carbon Compact pod, 2 rod version, nice light low compact modern carpy pod, I've also picked up some ND T10s bobbins which look the part and some of their Magnetic butt rests. An Advanta Protector Quick-Cradle for 37 quid on sale - and 2 hours later it was back to the regular £50 so I got that by the skin of my teeth. I've already got 2 Delkim Ev-D's, but I do see a couple of Txi-D's in my future, need to sneak them onto the bank statement somehow... I'm gonna be starting with day sessions for a few months, so I've not thought about much else, bed chairs, proper bivvies or any of that stuff - I think I'm going to pick up a Fox easy shelter+ to tide me over (the one that backs down into a small bag, and instantly pops up and pegs down like a kids argos tent 😁), as I said, it's all about easy, light, compact gear for me and that looks the part, I'm allergic to the sun and immune to the cold so I'd have no trouble in that even in the winter. This won't win me any friends in the modern day - but I love a Baitrunner - I've got a few around intended for deadbaiting and barbel (namely my pair of 6000 Baitrunner OC's, amongst a few others), I don't have my reels fully decided yet but I'm leaning heavily towards Ci4+ medium longcasts, I'm considering the Ci4+ 5500 Ultegra's but I don't fancy QD, we'll see in the coming weeks. I'm hoping to have everything that stays above water for day sessions sorted in the next week or 2 - even down to a bottle of carp care, then it's onto the exciting wet stuff, researching / learning, doing up some rigs, bait selection and then I'll be selecting a venue for the first session hopefully in September - probably a local pool or potentially a commercial to begin with. I've not told my Dad yet, I'm waiting to get one on the bank and show him that first picture of a carp, he'll be godsmacked, I've rinsed him for 15 years about camo-camping behind his shiny solar pod - looking like it has been perfectly aligned with a spirit level and splashed with holywater, can't wait to tell him I've come over to the darkside. So I'm just here to take part, share my fishing, and learn from people who know better than me, I'll be around 👍