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Ross - the magical number is 40 degrees. Not for all, as the range is between 40 and 60 degrees, but 40 is the starting point. As for Nash, nm - they have just (relatively recently) spent £350'ish thousand on coming in to line with EU guidelines. Somewhere in amongst the vast amount of money will be a pressure cooker or a vacuum bath that doesn't quite get to 40 degrees, I imagine.

Your probably right Phil, your certainly right about it being imported from Spain, they even used the same bottles, just stuck another label on it I would think there would be some fats present as well as sugars (carbs) and a few nutrients. I made them with coke, milk, all sorts, ive even made tiger milk, thats nice In fact, this will please carpmachine, if it wasn't for boilies or steamies in my case id still be on Tigers, but I like to think I can offer a bit more nutrition, and I like making baits and the whole science about it. And even if I am wrong, at least its down on here to show others and hopefully steer others in the right direction