Hi cobleyn,thanx for the advice mate as i say i am new to this,i have only just learned how to tye a knotless knot lol,i have tyed 1 rig with my 12lb adrenaline mainline size8 barbless hook and put a bit of shrink tube over the hook to make the hook turn quicker as i drag it over my hand,do you think this is o.k. or do you think i should try the one you said if so could you please tell me how to tye it or point me in the right direction?as i said before all help really is much appreciated thank you