rowleycarper

Thanks for the help I'm suprised that tackle companies don't make supple braids in a silt effect like gravel and weed I found one called ultimate phantom anyone use it ?

hi lads iv joined a syndicate which is a small estate lake with a soft silt bottom all over. I want to keep the rigs simple but cant seem to find a supple silt coloured braid any ideas ?? thanks

i dont follow you??? may be someone that HASN'T had a brain tumor removed by a surgeon that just got back from a holiday in Dublin can understand........but i dont. some thing to think about......a lead tied on to the mainline then hooklink tied to the lead, fixed lead.( death rig ) would be fine while its still connected to the rod....its when its NOT connected and left live in the water that it kills Your not following me right I mean a swivel tied to the end of the mainline then a weaker mono link tied to that swivel then the lead tied to the weaker mono. The hook link is still running on the mainline so no need for starky comments lol I got what you meant, hence my reply. I know you were aiming your comments at Beanz, but I think he has the same misgivings as I do If the hooklink is running on the mainline, and a swivel at the bottom, there is not enough weight to pull the rig free off the top end of the line. If the hooklink is in the "middle" of that broken, cracked off line, how does it pull free? It would take one end snagging up for the rig to be able to be ejected, yet if the line has twisted around itself then that may not be able to happen. It amazes me how little effort it takes for line to knot around itself, an almost untieable knot with loops hanging around it, yet those loops may also be enough to trap the line on a snag. That means the fish is now not only trailing the line, but is potentially tethered. Yet if the lead was attached, then the rig would previously have been pulled free as the lead dragged behind. I know what your saying and yes I also believe that would happen that's why I posted about using ova tape above the hook link rather than a bead that's how I set it up on leadcore

i dont follow you??? may be someone that HASN'T had a brain tumor removed by a surgeon that just got back from a holiday in Dublin can understand........but i dont. some thing to think about......a lead tied on to the mainline then hooklink tied to the lead, fixed lead.( death rig ) would be fine while its still connected to the rod....its when its NOT connected and left live in the water that it kills Your not following me right I mean a swivel tied to the end of the mainline then a weaker mono link tied to that swivel then the lead tied to the weaker mono. The hook link is still running on the mainline so no need for starky comments lol

FIshing a weak link on the end of a leader or your mainline is goin to increase the safety for the fish you could use a light mono and the lead will free if snagged. Also having a swivel then the weak Link the lead is wacking across the gill plates of the carp when playing the fish the lead will swing underneath.

I suppose you could use PBS tape above the hooklike instead of a bead then it's super safe

i worry though that if i crack off or get cut off, that the weak link will go before the hook link leaves the leader....if thats LC i dont see how(without the leads weight) it can get dumped.... i fear it may make it half way, but then would the two ends twist around and never get free??? scary thought I dont use a leader or leadcore though. But if you are using a chod and you get cut off/crackoff surely you are set up that the hooklink just pulls off over the leader. yep thats my point and why i dont think rotten bottom/weak link leads on heli and leader set ups are safe. It's the only safe way to fish a chod otherwise the lead can never be ejected. I have a swivel below the bottom bead on my lead core then a 10 inch say of 5lb mono tied to the lead so it can snap off in weed ect. Then the hook link slides down to the bottOm bead which is held on by the swivel.

rig tubing pins the line down behind the rig, I believe its important not just for pinning down but in the event the fish gets tangled in the line during the fight, the tubing will protect the scales on the fish. Iv found the new korda dark matter tubing by far the best on the market.

hi mate i like the gardner uncoated braid in 25lb, it may sound heavy but the thin ones feel very thin and may damage fish i dont know but the 25lb version is great stuff. My coated braid I have changed I was using the ESP TwoTone but its no where near as good as the new Korda stuff (ill get hung on here for sayin that ). The two tones coating comes away from the braid and bunches up when knotting with the coating still on when tying to link loops, (may just be me). Im just starting to play around with rigs using the ESP ghost soft fluorocarbon.

Hi there mate i use mainly coated and uncoated braid for my fishing, I fish with the uncoated stuff with my KD rigs which are my personel favorite. The coated braid I use if im fishing standard bottom bait rigs or snowman blowbacks. Have a butchers on the korda website there is a list of rigs on there showing you how to tie them with pics hope this helps P.S I wouldnt use mono line with hooks with an interned eye because the knot can break same goes for fluoro use straight or slightly out turned eyes like the stiff rgger hooks by esp.

if your backing the reel off with line then you will need to do a double grinner to join the lines together good strong knot used for leaders

If your using fluoro mainline I would use fluoro hooklenth to otherwise it would sort of be a waste of time having it on the reels.

i use the gardner one in 25lb because the lighter ones felt very thin to me and may cause damage. This 25lb one has been great for me caught most of my fish this year on it

iv been a memeber on here this year sometimes it gets busy at the weekends but other times its dead. Do your own thing on there and keep at it iv seen lots of people come and go where they give up because its not an easy water like fosters say it is, but its the same where ever you go its jus sussing the water