I blanked on first three trips before getting it right. Had first outing on cabin lake few weeks back and had a lovely looking 16lb 8oz common from in the second bay from the cabin. Everyone else had lines across to the island and were power casting, stuck to my guns and went just under bush on far edge of bay. Paid off, just got to watch the cats as they frequent in there too. Enjoyable place to fish once you get used to the buzzing of the power lines! The karaoke on the occassional Saturday is something to behold as the 'tones' work there way down the lakes!!