seleb

I use the leadwire out of leadcore. Just wrap it tightly around your line and then mould a little bit of putty around it. You use less putty and it doesn't move as easily.

That's pretty much the same way i set mine up but with slightly different components.

I thought that's what you meant anyway mate ? It's how i've been fishing the "chod" all year

The absolute safest way IMO is to not use a leader at all. Just thread a bead onto your mainline and set it at the depth you want the rig to slide back, then put your rig on, then another bead, then a 2 inch length of anti tangle tubing to protect the mainline, then a 1 inch length of silicone sleeving, tie a quick link onto the end of your line via an over hand loop, attach a lead and slide everything but the top bead down to the lead. It's best to use a sinking mainline and make sure to mould putty around the base of the swivel on your rig to stop it floating off the deck. I hope that makes sense ??

Well done guys It looks like you had quite week! Your arms must be aching after that lot Coops'. lol.

I agree with Jonezy that the easiest way is to just use a " rotten bottom " of 3 - 4lb line. The one concern i have with these sort of rigs is that once the lead is ditched , should a breakage of the line occur then the fish will be trailing the leadcore until the leader maybe becomes snagged as there will be no lead to help the rig off the end of the leader, assuming it's set up heli' style Thinking about it, if it is set up for a chod rig and the leader is lost with a fish attached then in theory if the top bead on the leader is less than half way up, the end trailing below the fish will be the end where the rig needs to exit , making it virtually impossible If that makes sense ??? p.s I know that it's not what you asked for but being as the thread is in the interests of fish safety i thought it was worth mentioning. Sam.

Put it in the catch reports section mate

Very true, which is why i put "How do you know" Although my comment has nothing to do with the rig at all

How do you know it's "in the mag's" then ?

I guess it all depends on the swim you find yourself in. The only times that i've fished a river is when i've been up the Trent. I tend to use BIG leads ( 6 0z + ) to hold bottom and have the rod tips high to keep the line out of the water to prevent the drag moving the lead around. Due to having the lines high and bow string tight i tend to use quite long hook lengths , normally 3+ ft long , so that the only line in the vicinity of the bait is the actual hook length itself and not the mainline . Although saying that i caught my PB Barbel on a standard 6 inch coated braid rig when the river was in flood. My advice would be to just go for a simple knot less knot set up and vary the hook length if you are getting line bites / knocks. Like i say, i only have experience of the Trent which is a bit of an animal when it's in flood. If you were on a slower, less powerful river you might be able to backlead, use shorter rigs ....... etc'. The best thing is to just try different things and see what works for you . Personally i would keep it simple as, IMO, they won't be that " riggy " Good luck.

When lead is new it is very shiny but it does tarnish very easily so you may find that it will go nice and dull. I don't think that a few coils of lead wire up your line would be detrimental to the fishes welfare TBH.

I think that with the Hybrid all the knots have to be steamed as they're being tightened to help them bed in. It seems like a pain in the backside having to get the kettle on when you want to tie a rig to me Apparently the Hybrid soft doesn't need it though. Personally I've used mantis for years now and have found no need to change although i am tempted to try some of the Atomic Jellywire

I read Jasons' articles with great interest , especially the hook sharpening ones. I remember him saying that some hooks sharpened better than others with Drennan Conti's being the best. I do sharpen my hooks now but only if i think it needs it. If I'm fishing a bottom bait and the hook is IMO sharp enough straight out of the packet then i won't bother touching it up. When i re- cast or have a take i will then check my hook points and re-sharpen them with an extremely fine diamond stone if need be. If I'm fishing a pop up i tend to sharpen them as much as i can straight out of the packet . I do this because i feel with the hook suspended from the bottom the point has a much lesser chance of being turned over. I wouldn't be confident to leave a sharpened hook out for days on end due to rust but for an overnighter i don't think it can hurt in the slightest.

I cant see split shot doing much damage as long as you don't put it on too tight. I used to float fish a lot when i was younger with shot all up my line which wasn't normally stronger than 3 or 4lb and it never did any damage or cost me any fish. The only problem with a self cocking float is that if you want to lay it on and fish the lift method you wouldn't get an indication until the fish moves away and that's if it's still got the bait.

Fair play mate. How many times does a rig have to be published before it does " look right " ?

Why ? All they teach you is how not to fish a hard gravel bottom. At least there's some lateral thinking going on here. He's already said that it's a pop up rig and i personally think that it would still work with a bait on the deck. Besides what part of it is badly tied ? Like you say , not having a go just asking some questions

I'll tell you what though that hook looks like a razor!

It doesn't look too bad but what's the idea of the tubing ? IMO it looks very similar to a rig that Johnny Mac' has been using. I think it got labelled the " multi rig " . Basically a rig with a masive "D".

http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32010&highlight=tieing+pop+ups Here you go mate. There's a couple of different ways explained here. I might as well say it before someone else does but capitals are seen as shouting on the forum. Good luck, Seleb.

Just in case anyone was wondering what chod stands for , here you go..... C rappy H orrible O ld D etritus. Rob Maylin was describing to Tel' what the bttom was like where he was fishing and decided to call it CHOD for short.

Nice, talk about a death rig

I use that when attaching swivels to ESP Bristle Fil' and have had no problems so far. I don't tend to use Fluoro' but i'd most likely use an overhand loop if i did so there is a bit of play at the swivel end.

Sewing them on is pretty simple really . Much easier than getting maggots glued to your fingers You just thread real maggots on to some cotton using a sewing needle, adding either small slivers of foam or imitation pop up maggots for the tarts. Then when you have enough on , say 20 or 30, you tie them onto a D - rig.

That's what i was thinking . You'd think that the name might give it away. If it was camouflaged on silt i'b very surprised.

They're supposed to be a very good hook but i've had several open out on me now nearly all ESP hooks that i've used have been quite springy. The Gardner Deceptors are a good stiff rig / chod hook, they're lovely and strong with a nice out turned eye.