ok thanks mate yeh i was lookin on that site before cheers for the info you kno the bank you fished was it like ner the island ish like the island is to the left of your swim if you look out. and i dont have a bait boat lol you could cast fat tho with 3 or 4 oz leads. oh and is july a good month or will the water levels be high still and 15 foot!!! seriously lol